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Steve Mullen
Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on Apr 29, 2014 at 3:08:48 am

1) When I click on a clip with an FX it highlights the clip and I can see one frame from a clip in the Viewer. The Playhead doesn't, however, move to this point so when I move pointer to the Inspector controls the Viewer reverts to the frame where the Playhead is. So the correct clip is highlighted and the Inspector has its controls, yet one is not looking at this clip.

What I'd really to figure-out how to get the Playhead to auto-move to a clip I click-on and thus is highlighted. Any way to get this behavior?

2) I've always wondered why Color, Correction 1, Transform, Crop have blue squares (Active) before I even apply any of these kinds of FX. In fact, why are they even listed in the Inspector because I haven't applied any of these FX? Seeing the blue makes me think that I've applied an FX I don't remember I've applied. Solution?

3) I'm trying to create a Widescreen look (2.34:1) and have cropped each clip. Then I've slid the wide image up/down to keep action within the wide frame. But, how do I get all crops to line-up in the vertical center of the 16:9 frame for a Project?

4) I add several FX to a clip and make settings. Now I want Copy and Paste Effects onto other clips. If either one of these FX have already been applied -- let's say as an experiment I made in the past -- when I Paste the duplicate doesn't replace the old FX, as I would think it should, it adds the new and keeps the old. Now I have two versions of the FX. Solution?

5) CTRL-Z doesn't undo the last settings made within the Inspector so there seems no way to roll-back critical visual changes. Am I missing something?


PS: Two odd behaviors with Natress Curves. First, sometimes the Show Curves button turns-off the curves but the button remains visible. Second, Natress effects are marked Obsolete so I go to the Motion folder and delete the "Obsolete" FX but as soon as I re-start FCPX, they reappear. Have others seen this? Solution?
One more -- why are information placed onto the Viewer for the editor's use, rendered into the export?


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Bret Williams
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on Apr 29, 2014 at 4:02:33 am

1- it used to work this way. In more situations than not, it was not the desired behavior. I guess ya had to be there.

2- those are universal controls for all clips. It would be quite annoying if you had to add these as fx and/or activate them before adjusting. Look at After Effects or other NLEs. Transform controls are just part of the clip because of their frequent use. In legacy, you could reset them, but not turn them off. X is a definite improvement here. I'm not sure why color is there. Probably because it's always on. IOW you can so a primary grade without affecting playback rt performance? Not sure.

3- make them a compound clip or place an adjustment layer matte above. Or work in a compound clip of that dimension, then drop it into the sequence size you need for output.

4- when you experimented, you left it there for a reason no? Perhaps you'd be even more ticked if it pasted and deleted your hard work. I think they err on the side of caution. Experiment away, but turn off experimental effects. Make. Request to Apple to bring back remove attributes command.

5- cmd 7 is undo. Not ctrl Z.


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Steve Mullen
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on Apr 29, 2014 at 5:16:31 am

Premiere years ago let you double-click a clip and Effects control would open automatically. Then they adopted the FCP 7 system. I keep thinking there must be a way to get the Skimmer and Playhead to auto-sync.

Speaking of Premiere, I found I can play 4K XAVC smoothly without rendering a Proxy by simply setting Viewers to 1/4 resolution. I was also surprised that FCP X made a FHD Proxy. I was also surprised that when I Exported as UHD unless I set Playback to Original it used the Proxy and upscaled it to UHD.


Usually I forgot the experimental FX. It would be nice if one could press Option to force a Replace an existing FX.

The Inspector isn't tall enough to see all the FX so it's easy to miss an old one. That's why the appearance of FX one has never used is so annoying as they take up vertical space -- not like any other Effects Editor.

Sorry, I meant CMD+Z. When did an OS X UNDO become CMD +7? Maybe I can assign in to CMD+ Z.

Best Regards,


Steve Mullen


Digital Video Consulting--Las Vegas


http://www.mindspring.com/~d-v-c


==========================


"Sony V1 and FX7 HANDBOOK" at http://www.knowledge-download.com/V1-FX7


"Sony HVR-Z1 and HDR-FX1 HANDBOOK" at: http://www.knowledge-download.com/SonyHDV


"EDITION 2: JVC GY-HD100 HANDBOOK" at: http://www.knowledge-download.com/JVCHDV




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Bret Williams
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on Apr 29, 2014 at 7:24:05 am

Definitely X could use some space management. For all the panels you can hide away it sure eats up space compared to others. I mean, what's with all the space between layers in the timeline? Why do I need space between layers? And if they just defaulted those transform, color, distort, etc. panels to closed, well, pretty much problem solved there. If you close them, they stay closed until you restart I think. Just make it a habit I guess. But it'd drive me nuts because I'm constantly going to stabilization, or the transform or even distort tools. I already find it a nuisance that many of the tools in the text panel are closed by default like face color for one. You'd think that'd be open by default.

There are a lot of interface gotchas compared to 7, but the capability of the app itself, when you don't include it's somewhat inability to play nice with others) is far beyond legacy.


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Steve Mullen
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on Apr 29, 2014 at 7:32:50 am

I wouldn't go back to to 7 -- but there is alway Premiere which until a 4K test I haven't used in years.

Best Regards,


Steve Mullen


Digital Video Consulting--Las Vegas


http://www.mindspring.com/~d-v-c


==========================


"Sony V1 and FX7 HANDBOOK" at http://www.knowledge-download.com/V1-FX7


"Sony HVR-Z1 and HDR-FX1 HANDBOOK" at: http://www.knowledge-download.com/SonyHDV


"EDITION 2: JVC GY-HD100 HANDBOOK" at: http://www.knowledge-download.com/JVCHDV




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Bret Williams
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on Apr 29, 2014 at 7:34:35 am

[Steve Mullen] "When did an OS X UNDO become CMD +7?"

Doh! I meant cmd+7 too. Late night.


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Steve Mullen
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on Apr 29, 2014 at 11:01:02 am

Still one question open.

3) I'm trying to create a Widescreen look (2.34:1) and have cropped each clip. Then I've slid the wide image up/down to keep action within the wide frame. But, how do I get all crops to line-up in the vertical center of the 16:9 frame for a Project?

Best Regards,


Steve Mullen


Digital Video Consulting--Las Vegas


http://www.mindspring.com/~d-v-c


==========================


"Sony V1 and FX7 HANDBOOK" at http://www.knowledge-download.com/V1-FX7


"Sony HVR-Z1 and HDR-FX1 HANDBOOK" at: http://www.knowledge-download.com/SonyHDV


"EDITION 2: JVC GY-HD100 HANDBOOK" at: http://www.knowledge-download.com/JVCHDV




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Nick Toth
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on Apr 29, 2014 at 12:25:13 pm

[Steve Mullen] "1) When I click on a clip with an FX it highlights the clip and I can see one frame from a clip in the Viewer. The Playhead doesn't, however, move to this point so when I move pointer to the Inspector controls the Viewer reverts to the frame where the Playhead is. So the correct clip is highlighted and the Inspector has its controls, yet one is not looking at this clip."


Option click on the clip.



[Steve Mullen] "2) I've always wondered why Color, Correction 1, Transform, Crop have blue squares (Active) before I even apply any of these kinds of FX. In fact, why are they even listed in the Inspector because I haven't applied any of these FX? Seeing the blue makes me think that I've applied an FX I don't remember I've applied. Solution?"

They are all active but with default settings.

[Steve Mullen] "3) I'm trying to create a Widescreen look (2.34:1) and have cropped each clip. Then I've slid the wide image up/down to keep action within the wide frame. But, how do I get all crops to line-up in the vertical center of the 16:9 frame for a Project?"

Overlay color solids cropped to the look you want and move the clips behind them. Make it a compound clip and you can use it in multiple projects.

anickt


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Nick Toth
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on Apr 29, 2014 at 2:33:58 pm

PS - make the cropped solids a comp. not everything.

anickt


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Steve Mullen
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on Apr 30, 2014 at 2:19:05 am

Overlay color solids cropped to the look you want and move the clips behind them. Make it a compound clip and you can use it in multiple projects.

I've got a series of clips cropped to 2.34:1 and each crop has been moved up/down so the desired content is within the crop window. That's been done.

I can create in the Timeline a 2.34:1 crop and center it in the 16:9 window on a solid black matte. But after pressing Done, I've got nothing useful--so I assume I'm not doing what you suggest.

I would guess I need to create a 2.34:1 transparent window and center it in the 16:9 window. But, it would be created in the Timeline and I would think I want it in the Event Browser. So do you mean create an image in Photoshop with an alpha window of 2.34:1?

But I also don't understand HOW one can "… move the clips behind them" because moving the crop on existing cropped video changes what's visible.

Moreover, doing this clip by clip seems way too slow. It would seem that somehow this should be a Project level operation.

Best Regards,


Steve Mullen


Digital Video Consulting--Las Vegas


http://www.mindspring.com/~d-v-c


==========================


"Sony V1 and FX7 HANDBOOK" at http://www.knowledge-download.com/V1-FX7


"Sony HVR-Z1 and HDR-FX1 HANDBOOK" at: http://www.knowledge-download.com/SonyHDV


"EDITION 2: JVC GY-HD100 HANDBOOK" at: http://www.knowledge-download.com/JVCHDV




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Nick Toth
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on Apr 30, 2014 at 2:50:33 pm

I often use one or two layers of color solids or a gradient generator cropped so they create a stripe across the top and/or bottom of the screen as a background for graphics. I crop them to fit the graphic overlay and the video is on a layer under generators.

If I need to I adjust the y position of the video to move it up or down as necessary. It does not need to be cropped because it is masked by the generator. If it needs to be animated due to motion within the frame it's a simple matter to keyframe the y value but often it's not necessary.

You can also use a cropped adjustment layer as Don says but in my case I use generators because I may want a color or gradient. For instance a client wants their website and logo up throughout the video on the lower third or maybe logo at the bottom and website at the top of the frame.

In your case, the cropped adjustment layer sounds like all you need.

anickt


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Don Smith
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on Apr 30, 2014 at 9:50:58 am

To make the playhead follow your selection hold Option when you select the clip. Otherwise the playhead stays where it is. This is a good thing. You choose either action (to hold Option or not to hold Option) and you'll find that MOST OFTEN you do NOT want the playhead to follow. Originally the playhead always followed the selection and it drove me MAD!

It was already suggested by another poster here but let me expand on cropping all clips the same using an Adjustment Layer. X does not ship with an Adjustment Layer but you can make your own in under a minute. Launch Motion. Create a new Final Cut Title. Delete the text layer (the layer that says 'Type Text Here'). Save with the name 'Adjustment Layer'. The Adjustment Layer appears in the Titles section of your Effects in X.

Put this layer above all video you want affected by anything you do to the Adjustment Layer. In your case, 2.34:1 (assuming you have 1920 pixel wide video) would give you a vertical size of 820 pixels. That's 260 pixels less than 1080 so just select the Adjustment Layer and crop it up from the bottom by half of 260 (130 pixels) and down from the top by 130 pixels. Now you have 2.34:1 video applied to all clips under the Adjustment Layer. And, all clips will be perfectly centered vertically.

In the future you can calculate how many pixels to crop by taking the wide pixel count (that's the '1' in the aspect ratio) and divide it by the ratio (2.34 in this case). That gives you the vertical size of the video frame you want. Subtract that number from the vertical frame (1080 in this case) then divide that difference by 2 to equally distribute the letterbox above and below the video using the Crop controls.

Extra Credit: You can make a custom Adjustment Layer to do this same crop for you whenever you need it. While creating the Adjustment Layer in Motion, crop the Title Background layer with the cropping that gives you a 2.34:1 mask and save it with a name like '2.34:1 Mask' instead of saving it with the Adjustment Layer name.

As to duplicate effects let me say you want that. There are circumstances where you'll use the same effect more than once and you don't want the software deciding for you automatically that you can't do that. This is a case where you as the editor will want to decide which effect can stay and you can just just click on clip after clip and check the Inspector to see if it has dupes you don't want and delete them. No need for the playhead to follow and unless you want that by holding Option with each clip selection.

NewsVideo.com


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Steve Mullen
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on Apr 30, 2014 at 10:26:38 am

An Adjustment Layer and the Chroma Key I made do the same thing.

But, each of my clips has its own 2.34 crop vertical position so it windows the desired area of a clip. Examples: to leave the same amount of air above heads OR when implementing a "common-top" crop.

In these cases the crop area is not typically centered vertically. Somehow, after cropping, the video contents must be "moved" to be vertically centered. I suppose some kind of animation could move a clip up/down.

I also thought of making a 1920x840 Project but it seems one can't make a Custom sized project. And FCPX rejects a first clip that's 1920x840. When exporting I'd use 1920x1080 which should simply letterbox the 1920x840 video.

Lastly, it seems a double-click on a clip would be far simpler than holding an option key. Then the Option+click could do something really useful--pop-up a list of all FX that have been actually applied to the clip. This would enable quick delete(s) as well as sliding the order-to-be-applied.

Best Regards,


Steve Mullen


Digital Video Consulting--Las Vegas


http://www.mindspring.com/~d-v-c


==========================


"Sony V1 and FX7 HANDBOOK" at http://www.knowledge-download.com/V1-FX7


"Sony HVR-Z1 and HDR-FX1 HANDBOOK" at: http://www.knowledge-download.com/SonyHDV


"EDITION 2: JVC GY-HD100 HANDBOOK" at: http://www.knowledge-download.com/JVCHDV




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Don Smith
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on Apr 30, 2014 at 11:51:59 am

If I understand you then you may not understand that the Adjustment Layer does not lock where the video below is positioned. Once you have a crop on the Adjustment Layer you are free to select each clip below and move it up and down so that the area 'showing through' the mask is what you want yet the mask stays locked in the same position. You did say you wanted a uniform mask that's the same across all clips didn't you? Using a cropped Adjustment Layer leaves you free to move each clip as you see fit so that the right area is visible.

Making a double-click on a clip to move the playhead to the clip would set up all sorts of problems with other functions. For example, you could no longer double-click on a Compound Clip to go into the nest. You could no longer double-click on a MultiCam clip to expand into its components. It would be easier (and I haven't tested this) to use a mouse Preference pane to program, say, the wheel click to emulate the Option click so you could get what you want one-handed.

Don

NewsVideo.com


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Robin S. Kurz
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on Apr 30, 2014 at 3:03:20 pm

Too lazy to read the entire thread, so sorry for any redundancies. ;)

1. OPTION-click on the clip. It used to be the other way around. Glad it changed.

2. Simply click them off and you'll know if you changed anything. If they were OFF by default, you'd have to remember to turn them ON first before making changes to actually have them apply. The way it is is the only logical way IMHO.

4. You should be using PASTE ATTRIBUTES instead.

5. CTRL-Z doesn't undo *anything*, only COMMAND-Z. And there are a few exceptions to what falls into the area of an undoable action, but "critical visual changes" certainly shouldn't be one of them and aren't as far as I can see. Unless I don't in fact know what you mean by that. Any and everything I do in the inspector is undoable.

P.S. Something you need to talk to the Natress people about. The fact that visuals are exported if left on is THEIR decision/programming, not FCP's/Apple's.


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Brad Bell
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on Apr 30, 2014 at 7:48:59 pm

[Steve Mullen] "3) I'm trying to create a Widescreen look (2.34:1) and have cropped each clip. Then I've slid the wide image up/down to keep action within the wide frame. But, how do I get all crops to line-up in the vertical center of the 16:9 frame for a Project?"

Don't crop each clip. Then..

OLD SOLUTION:
Get free Alex4D Widescreen Matte, an adjustment layer effect with about 25 different presets for ratios. (2.35:1?)
http://blog.alex4d.com/2011/07/22/fcpx-widescreen-matte/
Place on timeline above your clip as Don Smith suggests.
When you export, use a Compressor preset (which you need to make) to crop off the black bars - or select Share > Master File... to keep the black bars.

NEW SOLUTION:
Create a custom project with the dimensions you want. You can shift your clips up and down on the timeline. When you select Share > Master File...
You get a master with the correct dimensions, ready to go. No Compressor preset necessary. (If you want black bars in the master, use the old solution.)


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Steve Mullen
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on May 1, 2014 at 1:24:54 am

Thank you Brad, it works perfectly. For others who might follow this thread, you move the video under the matte using the Transform FX.

Two simple questions:

1) When moving a clip up/down in a Transform, how does one constrain movement so the clip doesn't move horizontally? Shift didn't work.

2) It seems like it should be simple using the Inspector, but how does one alter the Video/Audio parameters of a clip(s)? A matte came in at 60fps and I wanted to change it to 25fps. HELP was no help. Likewise, to change a Project's Properties, there seems no way overriding FCPX presets to create a unique resolution. Is this not possible?

Best Regards,


Steve Mullen


Digital Video Consulting--Las Vegas


http://www.mindspring.com/~d-v-c


==========================


"Sony V1 and FX7 HANDBOOK" at http://www.knowledge-download.com/V1-FX7


"Sony HVR-Z1 and HDR-FX1 HANDBOOK" at: http://www.knowledge-download.com/SonyHDV


"EDITION 2: JVC GY-HD100 HANDBOOK" at: http://www.knowledge-download.com/JVCHDV




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Robin S. Kurz
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on May 1, 2014 at 7:49:21 am

1. Simply click and drag the value in the inspector. Or drag the layer by its anchor point which snaps it to the guides.

2. Use the retime menu to set the clip in the timeline to "automatic speed" which will (obviously) slow it down accordingly. That's assuming your project is set to 25fps. And if you're not seeing custom resolutions, then you must not be using 10.1.x.


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Brad Bell
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on May 1, 2014 at 3:25:13 pm

[Robin S. Kurz] "2. Use the retime menu to set the clip in the timeline to "automatic speed" which will (obviously) slow it down accordingly. That's assuming your project is set to 25fps. And if you're not seeing custom resolutions, then you must not be using 10.1.x."

Prior to 10.1, "Automatic Speed" was called, "Conform"

If you aren't using 10.1, it's worth doing some research on it before upgrading. Libraries and events are quite different. New projects are a breeze, but only convert *one* project - one not-very-important project - to figure out how it works, what FCPX is going to do converting it, and how you need to amend things to make them make sense again. (I still haven't finished re-organising my pre-existing projects.)


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Robin S. Kurz
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on May 1, 2014 at 3:49:33 pm
Last Edited By Robin S. Kurz on May 1, 2014 at 3:51:32 pm

Simply go here and follow the recommended workflow, if it's in fact an issue, and you're fine:

http://www.philiphodgetts.com/2013/12/upgrade-your-events-and-project-to-fc...

And if you in fact haven't updated, I'd have to ask WHY, since it's something you most definitely want to do.


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Steve Mullen
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on May 2, 2014 at 12:42:25 am

"And if you in fact haven't updated, I'd have to ask WHY, since it's something you most definitely want to do."

Actually not. I'd have to upgrade my OS which would kill Media Composer. Since MC is more important to me--at this point--than FCPX, it's not a good trade-off. It's not that I like MC, but I know how to do precise edits with it. So far I use FCPX only for stringing clips together, fast. Honestly, I'm not sure I want to learn a whole new set of Apple concepts just to do what I've been doing almost 40 years. Perhaps slowly over time. However, I was recently surprised to find my old copy of Premiere Pro CS6 edited 4K XAVC without any need for proxy. So, if I left MC it might make more sense to go to Premiere, which oddly I started with in about 1993.

Best Regards,


Steve Mullen


Digital Video Consulting--Las Vegas


http://www.mindspring.com/~d-v-c


==========================


"Sony V1 and FX7 HANDBOOK" at http://www.knowledge-download.com/V1-FX7


"Sony HVR-Z1 and HDR-FX1 HANDBOOK" at: http://www.knowledge-download.com/SonyHDV


"EDITION 2: JVC GY-HD100 HANDBOOK" at: http://www.knowledge-download.com/JVCHDV




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Robin S. Kurz
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on May 2, 2014 at 11:13:56 am

"I'm not sure I want to learn a whole new set of Apple concepts just to do what I've been doing almost 40 years."

Other than some alternate nomenclature, I don't see how "Apple's concepts" are somehow radically different. You have bins (with a different name), ins and outs and a timeline.

"I was recently surprised to find my old copy of Premiere Pro CS6 edited 4K XAVC without any need for proxy."

How is that not possible with FCP X? I recently even edited a 12 angle 4K multicam with 10.1 at full res (which I highly doubt, from experience, Premiere did or does) without a hitch. Obviously given the right hardware.

Either way, your best bet it 10.1.x (*only* bet actually if you need custom resolutions). You could always just install Mavericks on a separate partition.

I'm also intrigued by how amazingly long Avid needs to qualify their software every time with any and every change, even if it's tiny, compared to any other NLE. That bullet-point alone would drive me from an MC in a day, were I still using one.


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Steve Mullen
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on May 2, 2014 at 12:29:08 pm

Apple concepts: compound clips, audition, libraries, etc. What's wrong with video inserts? That's been with us since VTR editing. And where are the "transport" buttons. GOTOIN, CLEARIN, etc. The same things we used to do, still need to get done, so why do I need to learn new terminology to do it? Apple has never made the case that different is BETTER.

But, the real issue is that FCPX CC is nowhere near that offered by MC. It's not only non-intutive!!! it has no curves. Can't see multiple scopes at once on a laptop, So since I already KNOW I'll have to use something other than FCPX--it doesn't make sense to spend the time to learn it beyond how I use it now. And, for simple edits its fine! (Like a super iMovie.)

And, I do have the 10.1 version on another HD. But, I see no advantage in switching to get Libraries. I've got zero problems with how it is. So if a new version doesn't make a positive impact in my life, I have no need to use it. If editing is your job then fine--invest the time. (And, I'm sure if you've never edited film or tape--it may be very fast to learn FCPX.) But at 71 I've got other uses go my time. Like investigate free Lightworks. It impressed me at NAB in the early `90s and I'm willing to give it a chance. And, Resolve 11 is another product that MAY be worth the time to learn since many of the cameras I'm interested in shoot RAW. And, it too is free.

Right now I'm on 10.7.5 which is VERY VERY stable and doesn't have the gimmicks Apple has added. Now when I NEED to buy a new Mac, I'll have reconsider. Either I'll have to upgrade MC or buy Adobe CC or use Lightworks or use Resolve.

I'm really thankful for the help folks have provided to me. I can now do some things I wanted to do. But, FCPX's GUI still has problems for me. I have spent years getting MC's ability to support multiple layouts to do exactly what I want done--on a laptop.

PS1: Premiere can play XAVC because you get to specify the resolution of the TWO viewers. Until proxies have been generated, FCPX is slow.

PS2: When I met with Randy when he was still involved with Premiere, he had NO idea what a backtimed insert was. Say what you want about Avid, MC has always understood what editors DO.

But, there is no need to argue about NLEs. There are options for everyone.

Best Regards,


Steve Mullen


Digital Video Consulting--Las Vegas


http://www.mindspring.com/~d-v-c


==========================


"Sony V1 and FX7 HANDBOOK" at http://www.knowledge-download.com/V1-FX7


"Sony HVR-Z1 and HDR-FX1 HANDBOOK" at: http://www.knowledge-download.com/SonyHDV


"EDITION 2: JVC GY-HD100 HANDBOOK" at: http://www.knowledge-download.com/JVCHDV




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Robin S. Kurz
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on May 2, 2014 at 3:54:36 pm
Last Edited By Robin S. Kurz on May 2, 2014 at 3:56:10 pm

Sorry, but you just merely demonstrated that you are missing even the most basic knowledge of FCP X. Every single command/shortcut you list in fact exists in X. Unfortunately that exact thing is what X has been suffering from for the last three years: completely false claims and presumptions... and people reading them and simply taking them to be true without any scrutiny whatsoever. Then they parrot those same "facts" repeatedly elsewhere. *sigh*

"I see no advantage in switching to get Libraries"

Wow.

"I've got zero problems with how it is."

Clearly, you do.

And just FYI: I started in film school in the late 80's on Steenbeck/Movieola, but never mind.

PS1: X has even up to *3* viewers, sorry, and is most definitely far more performant than Premiere by ways of the "gimmick" OpenCL 2.0 (not to mention CoreVideo etc. etc.) alone.

PS2: X has had back timed edits since day one, should you have been suggesting that it doesn't.

And I'm also not "arguing about NLEs" nor have I. I couldn't care less what anyone else uses or prefers. I'm merely set the record straight when I see the usual plethora of false claims that are based in nothing more than simple lack of knowledge, since 3 years of it are truly enough... even though I know it won't change anything about some peoples's dead set opinions in the end either way.


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Steve Mullen
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on May 2, 2014 at 10:29:55 pm

"Every single command/shortcut you list in fact exists in X. Unfortunately that exact thing is what X has been suffering from for the last three years: completely false claims and presumptions... and people reading them and simply taking them to be true without any scrutiny whatsoever."

It has nothing to do with reading what others say--I've been using FCPX since Day 1. I'm sure I can learn to get FCPX to do what FCP 7 did. That's not the point.

Bitching about FCPX "suffering" is really lame. What's been missing for three years are what advantages FCPX brings beyond being cheap. Apple avoided making a marketing and sales case for FCPX by simply killing FCP 7. I'm sure they knew that if both existed very few would switch and they would be stuck with supporting QT-based FCP 7 for years. Since then folks have focused on how to use FCPX to do what they did with FCP 7 -- so they can keep working. Look at the tutorials -- how to do X. Apple still has not made the case that a new concept of editing provides any advantages to the editor who already has MC and Premiere--and already has years of experience using them.

Moreover, you are missing that it's not that every command exists in FCP X, it's that I have zero need to find them when I already know them in other NLEs. (And commands are not the same as capabilities like a CC. And, yes I've bought CC plug-ins.) And commands via keys are not the same as clickable buttons that I can be place where I want them.

Best Regards,


Steve Mullen


Digital Video Consulting--Las Vegas


http://www.mindspring.com/~d-v-c


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"Sony V1 and FX7 HANDBOOK" at http://www.knowledge-download.com/V1-FX7


"Sony HVR-Z1 and HDR-FX1 HANDBOOK" at: http://www.knowledge-download.com/SonyHDV


"EDITION 2: JVC GY-HD100 HANDBOOK" at: http://www.knowledge-download.com/JVCHDV




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Robin S. Kurz
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on May 3, 2014 at 9:32:49 am

Yeah, Steve. You've clearly got Apple aaaaaall figured out. :-D


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Steve Mullen
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on May 3, 2014 at 10:40:35 am

Apple fanboy behavior has always been and continues to be truly ugly. Lacking any response to the question "what can FCPX do to improve editing that would justify learning it deeply--you get really nasty. I understand Apple screwed FCP 7 folks, but those of use who never much liked FCP never had to switch. We just keep going with products that were always better than FCP 7. And, to do iMovie kind of projects FCPX is just fine. I'll continue to use it. But, after my experience with you being unable to offer one single advantage to FCPX, I'm certainly not going to invest my time in it.

And, in a month I'll have Lightwave and Resolve 11 and they won't cost me a penny. If I'm going to take the time to learn something new--I want something more powerful, not just different.

Where do you think all those who don't have the money for MC and Adobe are going to go next month? When cheap determines your choice of NLE then free is even better. So the switch really isn't over. Watch for diminished interest in FCPX in the next couple of months as folks realize they can get free of Apple who has shown--not just to FCP editors but users of all their applications--that they are first and formost a phone company.

Best Regards,


Steve Mullen


Digital Video Consulting--Las Vegas


http://www.mindspring.com/~d-v-c


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"Sony V1 and FX7 HANDBOOK" at http://www.knowledge-download.com/V1-FX7


"Sony HVR-Z1 and HDR-FX1 HANDBOOK" at: http://www.knowledge-download.com/SonyHDV


"EDITION 2: JVC GY-HD100 HANDBOOK" at: http://www.knowledge-download.com/JVCHDV




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Robin S. Kurz
Re: Long-term FCPX user, but still have 5 newbie questions.
on May 3, 2014 at 1:21:18 pm
Last Edited By Robin S. Kurz on May 3, 2014 at 1:27:41 pm

Sure Steve. :)

We certainly agree on one thing: Don't like it? Don't need it? Have something that suits you better? Well gee... don't use it. Pretty simple. No clinging to a long list of classic logical fallacies even needed for that! :-D

You with your, as you say, newbie questions have clearly established yourself as a complete expert on all things FCP.


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