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Adam Schoales
Importing C300 Footage into an External Library
on Apr 16, 2014 at 1:55:18 pm

Hi all,

Quick question in terms of workflow.

We're moving to using FCP X at the office, but since we have mutliple editors and a shared environment we're using "external libraries" rather than managed. I've watched a bunch of the tutorials and read a bunch of the articles and I think I have a pretty good understanding of how everything works, but my question is how do you go about creating an external library from media that isn't in a format that FCP X can natively read, ie. Canon C300?

For the time being this was my workflow:
- Receive HDD with card source backups (folders for each card)
- Open those folders with FCP *7*'s log and transfer window to import the footage as pro-res
- Re-organize that pro-res material into the correct folder structure to match the source folder strucure (A01, B01, etc)
- Import the new pro-res material into FCP X as an external library being sure to "leave files in place" on our Media Server Raid.

I know that if I were to create a "managed" library with FCP X I could import the card material and create optimized/proxy media but since I wanted an external library wasn't sure what made the most sense, and to ensure I didn't screw anything up went back to the legacy software (FCP 7)

Any thoughts/opinions/tips/tricks would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.


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Andy Neil
Re: Importing C300 Footage into an External Library
on Apr 16, 2014 at 3:07:11 pm

You're not going to screw anything up by staying in FCPX; there's no unrecoverable Library situation. At the very worst you can still show package contents for a library and manually manage your media that way.

Based on the workflow you mentioned, why not just create a Library to digitize the C300 footage, create your proxies and optimized as you want and then consolidate the event files to an outside location? You'd still have to put them in camera folders if that's how you have things organized on the SAN,but at least you could work completely within FCPX instead of moving to FCP7.

Andy

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Mark Smith
Re: Importing C300 Footage into an External Library
on Apr 16, 2014 at 3:38:07 pm

Get the canon XF plug in for FCPX and take the FCP 7 step out of your workflow.


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Adam Schoales
Re: Importing C300 Footage into an External Library
on Apr 16, 2014 at 3:51:57 pm

That was sort of my next step consideration. That or perhaps a 3rd party tool like Shot Put Pro?


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Importing C300 Footage into an External Library
on Apr 16, 2014 at 4:13:25 pm

Canon C300 media is already optimized in FCPX. You can't create ProRes movies from it in FCPX (optimized media is greyed out)

So, you import the footage, and when you click the import button, you will get the import preferences screen.

The first radio button under the Event section is "Media Storage: Copy Files into:"

From there you select the door down and select "Choose..."

Then chose a folder on the server for FCPX to rewrap the footage to 50Mbit 422 MPEG2.

Here's a picture (this is with C300 footage importing):



Jeremy


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Michael Sanders
Re: Importing C300 Footage into an External Library
on Apr 16, 2014 at 5:20:06 pm

Jeremy,

Canon footage is MXF and thus not optimised for FCP X. It will only work directly if you have an MXF plugin like Hamburg media.

When you ingest with the canon plugin it is re-wrapping it as .mov (this is exactly the same process as importing XDcam material).

Michael Sanders
London Based DP/Editor


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Importing C300 Footage into an External Library
on Apr 16, 2014 at 5:22:22 pm

[Michael Sanders] "When you ingest with the canon plugin it is re-wrapping it as .mov (this is exactly the same process as importing XDcam material)."

That's exactly what I said. The footage is rewrapped to .mov. Once it's rewrapped, you can't optimize it.


Jeremy


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Michael Sanders
Re: Importing C300 Footage into an External Library
on Apr 16, 2014 at 5:27:48 pm

My deepest apologies Jeremy you did indeed say that - I made a terrible error and read the head line and then skim read the rest. I jumped the gun and I am sorry.

Michael Sanders
London Based DP/Editor


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Adam Schoales
Re: Importing C300 Footage into an External Library
on Apr 16, 2014 at 7:23:26 pm

Canon C300 media is already optimized in FCPX. You can't create ProRes movies from it in FCPX (optimized media is greyed out)

So, you import the footage, and when you click the import button, you will get the import preferences screen.

The first radio button under the Event section is "Media Storage: Copy Files into:"

From there you select the door down and select "Choose..."

Then chose a folder on the server for FCPX to rewrap the footage to 50Mbit 422 MPEG2.


Now, forgive me if I'm mistaken, but the FCP 7 method *does* result in ProRes files. If we wanted ProRes files rather than raw Canon XF files is there a way to do this through FCP X?

I don't know for sure if we actually *do* need ProRes, especially since this case it's for a FCP X workflow, I just know my boss always wants us working in ProRes for easy cross-compatability. In other words, I'm just trying to cover my bases.


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Importing C300 Footage into an External Library
on Apr 16, 2014 at 7:38:53 pm

[Adam Schoales] "Now, forgive me if I'm mistaken, but the FCP 7 method *does* result in ProRes files. If we wanted ProRes files rather than raw Canon XF files is there a way to do this through FCP X? "

No. FCPX deems 50Mbit 422 MPEG2 HD movies as optimized. You can flip the files in Compressor or something if you want.

[Adam Schoales] "I don't know for sure if we actually *do* need ProRes, especially since this case it's for a FCP X workflow, I just know my boss always wants us working in ProRes for easy cross-compatability. In other words, I'm just trying to cover my bases."

Yes. You will need to convert the files in another program if you need ProRes source files.


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Adam Schoales
Re: Importing C300 Footage into an External Library
on Apr 16, 2014 at 8:08:06 pm

Perfect, thanks very much for the clarification. Greatly appreciate it.


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Michael Sanders
Re: Importing C300 Footage into an External Library
on Apr 16, 2014 at 5:24:20 pm

Adam.

As others have said, get the Canon FCP X plugin and ingest the material directly into FCP X - but as you say copy it to external folders on your external drives.

FWIW The events can also live in on external drives such as a SAN so they can be shared.

Its worth reading this: http://images.apple.com/final-cut-pro/docs/Media_Management.pdf to get a better overview.

Its also worth noting Shot Put Pro is just a copying programme - but a very good one. Its aimed at backing up cards after a shoot.

Michael Sanders
London Based DP/Editor


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Mark Smith
Re: Importing C300 Footage into an External Library
on Apr 16, 2014 at 5:42:02 pm

When I ingest C-300 footage into FCPX, ( I have the canon plug in) I copy the material to a folder I designate, rarely one inside the FCPX library.

My point about the canon plug in is that you can side step the " convert MXF to pro res step and go right into FCPX and a folder of your choosing . This is far less time consiuming that doing the conversion to pro res outside of FCPx.

Shot Put Pro is my go to soution for creating camera original backups/ offloading camera cards. The app isn't designed to do anything other than that.


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Adam Schoales
Re: Importing C300 Footage into an External Library
on Apr 16, 2014 at 7:21:12 pm

Thanks everyone. This seems to have answered my question, and will allow us to stay entirely in FCP X.


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chris gu
Re: Importing C300 Footage into an External Library
on Dec 9, 2014 at 11:38:30 am

Generally, it’s not quite straight forward to edit Canon C300 MXF in Final Cut Pro. You may need to Canon XF Utility to download clips off your original media from a CF card (The C300 records to Compact Flash cards) and backing up the clips in a unique folder based on the date and time of the transfer. Next step you'll need to install Canon XF plugin and finally launch Final Cut Pro to begin the import process. The importing way is a tedious process, which needs you patience. The alternative way is to transcode C300 MXF to ProRes first before post production.


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Importing C300 Footage into an External Library
on Dec 9, 2014 at 4:34:15 pm

[chris gu] "Generally, it’s not quite straight forward to edit Canon C300 MXF in Final Cut Pro. "

This should process should be different with 10.1.4 as FCPX can now read MXF files without rewrapping to QT.

Jeremy


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