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Keith Koby
Mavericks QT Player X "Converts" FCP X Quicktimes Before Playing
on Feb 11, 2014 at 5:09:37 pm

Has anyone else noticed an issue in mavericks where a prores .mov file exported from FCPX does not just play in player, instead it "converts" first before playback and then prompts you to save the file after?


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Andy Neil
Re: Mavericks QT Player X "Converts" FCP X Quicktimes Before Playing
on Feb 11, 2014 at 6:09:51 pm

Have you installed the pro codecs on your system? Quicktime does this when it encounters a codec it can't play natively so it converts to one it can (I believe).

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Warren Eig
Re: Mavericks QT Player X "Converts" FCP X Quicktimes Before Playing
on Feb 11, 2014 at 7:48:06 pm

Quicktime X only seems to play back h.264. Have you installed Quicktime 7.6.6?

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Paul Figgiani
Re: Mavericks QT Player X "Converts" FCP X Quicktimes Before Playing
on Feb 11, 2014 at 9:02:38 pm

[Warren Eig] " Re: Mavericks QT Player X "Converts" FCP X Quicktimes Before Playing
by Warren Eig on Feb 11, 2014 at 2:48:06 pm

Quicktime X only seems to play back h.264. Have you installed Quicktime 7.6.6?"


I don't think so. I can immediately play back ProRes files right out of FCPX in QT X.

-paul.


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Keith Koby
Re: Mavericks QT Player X "Converts" FCP X Quicktimes Before Playing
on Feb 11, 2014 at 10:40:20 pm

QT 7 plays the files. It is installed but it doesn't affect Quicklooks ability to play or not play the files.

On further examination it looks like fcpx exported files are ok in quick look and qt player x. It's our source prores files which come from vantage or episode that are the issue.


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Oliver Peters
Re: Mavericks QT Player X "Converts" FCP X Quicktimes Before Playing
on Feb 12, 2014 at 12:25:11 am
Last Edited By Oliver Peters on Feb 12, 2014 at 12:28:20 am

I've noticed this, too. QTX seemed to play all ProRes files under 1GB without issue. All files over 1GB were "converted". If you saved the "converted" file from QTX, the resulting file was ProRes and the exact same file size as the original (non-converted) file. In all cases, QT7 opened all of these files without issue.

Any file that QTX tried to "convert" wouldn't play with QuickLooks. All OS, codec and video software is current (Mavericks). Like Keith, I suspect the files in question were ProRes, but came from some oddball source, like maybe a camera manufacturer's conversion utility.

- Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com


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James Culbertson
Re: Mavericks QT Player X "Converts" FCP X Quicktimes Before Playing
on Feb 12, 2014 at 1:32:02 am

[Oliver Peters] "I suspect the files in question were ProRes, but came from some oddball source, like maybe a camera manufacturer's conversion utility."

Is there some kind of tag in the file that indicates origination? Otherwise, what difference could there be between ProRes files coming from different apps?


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Bret Williams
Re: Mavericks QT Player X "Converts" FCP X Quicktimes Before Playing
on Feb 12, 2014 at 2:30:17 am

I've got plenty of 15-30GB proRes files that are fine. I even have a proRes file that's some oddball 5300x1080 or something from 4 years ago (for a conference wall) that plays just fine. Sometimes old DV files need conversion, sometimes not. Can't find a pattern.


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Oliver Peters
Re: Mavericks QT Player X "Converts" FCP X Quicktimes Before Playing
on Feb 12, 2014 at 2:46:07 am

[Bret Williams] "Can't find a pattern"

You are probably right. It must be something that's changed with Mavericks as part of Apple's continuing deprecation of QuickTime. My files in question are all labeled starting with "Clip" followed by a longer number. That is why I figured they were created by some camera utility. Other files that I've processed with MPEG Streamclip, for instance, have no issue. These others came from a client.

- Oliver

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Keith Koby
Re: Mavericks QT Player X "Converts" FCP X Quicktimes Before Playing
on Feb 12, 2014 at 1:07:47 pm

An engineer that works for me says he found a thread about mavericks and quicklook no longer using third party codecs or qt to decode.

Doesn't explain the prores files not originating from fcpx or those over 1GB in file size if those are related to the problem.

Oliver - it surprises me that if you save the qtx converted file, that it too has the quicklook problem. I'm curious if we open a converted file with qtx, will it convert again.


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Oliver Peters
Re: Mavericks QT Player X "Converts" FCP X Quicktimes Before Playing
on Feb 12, 2014 at 1:12:46 pm

No. Sorry if I gave that impression. The converted file didn't have a problem with QuickLooks. It had the same file size. FWIW - neither version was any problem inside FCP X. So it's definitely a problem with the piece of junk that is QT these days.

Oliver

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Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com


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Keith Koby
Re: Mavericks QT Player X "Converts" FCP X Quicktimes Before Playing
on Feb 12, 2014 at 1:18:57 pm

My bad. Ok - so after fcpx or qtx "conversion", it plays nicely. It sounds like a qt atom type of thing that is not in the non-apple originating prores files.

And as you posted earlier, no problems with these files in fcpx, just outside.


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Oliver Peters
Re: Mavericks QT Player X "Converts" FCP X Quicktimes Before Playing
on Feb 12, 2014 at 1:23:39 pm

Actually the original file, without any conversion, plays fine in FCP X. Just a standard import (leave media in place). In my case, the original file is ProRes.

Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com


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Keith Koby
Re: Mavericks QT Player X "Converts" FCP X Quicktimes Before Playing
on Feb 12, 2014 at 1:26:32 pm

Agreed. No problems with these prores sources inside of fcpx, only outside.


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Bret Williams
Re: Mavericks QT Player X "Converts" FCP X Quicktimes Before Playing
on Feb 12, 2014 at 3:11:41 pm

I have had a few files that wouldn't play in QTX, but they were just fine in Legacy! Some of those include ProRes LT from an unknown client source.


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Jari Innanen
Re: Mavericks QT Player X "Converts" FCP X Quicktimes Before Playing
on Feb 12, 2014 at 1:50:49 pm

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT6055


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Keith Koby
Re: Mavericks QT Player X "Converts" FCP X Quicktimes Before Playing
on Feb 12, 2014 at 2:18:52 pm

Thanks Jari. From the kb, it looks as if ProRes files should playback in quicklook with no issue, but it is not the case with (at least some, maybe not all) third party created ProRes files.


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Keith Koby
Re: Mavericks QT Player X and QuickLook issues with 3rd Party ProRes Files
on Feb 12, 2014 at 5:12:58 pm

For posterity, I'm doing a reset of the subject and re-defining the issue:

In Mavericks 10.9.1, attempting to play some 3rd party generated ProRes .mov files through either QuickLook (spacebar) or QT Player X, results in unexpected behavior:

1. On opening, QuickTime Player X will convert the ProRes file to the same format (ProRes) before playing it and prompt the user to save the new movie on close. According to this KB, QT Player X should play ProRes without convert. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT6055

2. QuickLook does not play the movie and instead displays a still and shows the file's size as 0 kb.



Additional info:

The issue seems to only affect ProRes files that come from third-party transcoders (i.e. vantage) or third-party cameras that record to ProRes.

The preview picture in the finder for assets that experience this problem is a 4:3 image with letterbox when the actual asset is 1080 HD 16:9. CLAP atom issue?


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