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D. Scott Dobbie
Does FCP X still need to wrap P2 MXF footage in .mov files?
on Jan 29, 2014 at 5:03:46 pm

I have a multi-cam project coming up that will yield just over 1TB of data on P2 cards.

I do not yet have FCP X, but I seem to recall that it no longer has to ingest the P2 footage to place a .mov wrapper around it. Since I want to avoid days of just "Log & Transfer," is that correct?

Yes - I know I can switch the show live for a rough cut, but I'd still want to clean it up, so I'd be back to the "L&T."

Thanks!



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Tim Jones
Re: Does FCP X still need to wrap P2 MXF footage in .mov files?
on Jan 29, 2014 at 5:38:44 pm

Do you have the AVCCAM plugin loaded?

AVCCAM Plugin for QT 7

That allows you to work with the AVCHD files directly.

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Shane Ross
Re: Does FCP X still need to wrap P2 MXF footage in .mov files?
on Jan 29, 2014 at 5:52:08 pm

Tim...P2 cameras don't shoot AVCHD...they shoot DVCPRO HD and AVCIntra as MXF files.

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Tim Jones
Re: Does FCP X still need to wrap P2 MXF footage in .mov files?
on Jan 29, 2014 at 6:15:24 pm

Argh - I typed AVCCAM and Apple's autocorrect grabbed AVCHD from my saved entries ...

Sorry - that's what I meant :/.

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Tim Jones
Re: Does FCP X still need to wrap P2 MXF footage in .mov files?
on Jan 29, 2014 at 6:21:00 pm

I Mentioned that because I needed it for some clips. I just realized that my other MXF files are being handled by MXF4Mac and MXFImport.

So, I guess the real answer to your question is yes, it still appears to need the wrapper.

Tim
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D. Scott Dobbie
Re: Does FCP X still need to wrap P2 MXF footage in .mov files?
on Jan 29, 2014 at 6:24:26 pm

That's too bad. Thank you, Tim and Shane.



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Mark Smith
Re: Does FCP X still need to wrap P2 MXF footage in .mov files?
on Jan 29, 2014 at 9:08:28 pm

I just loaded some p2 avc intra files yesterday into an fcpx project without optimizing media . My sense is that there is no rewrapping of files since the load in was really fast and I'm editing on a Mac mini .


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Tim Jones
Re: Does FCP X still need to wrap P2 MXF footage in .mov files?
on Jan 30, 2014 at 3:48:07 am
Last Edited By Tim Jones on Jan 30, 2014 at 3:49:19 am

And I just got an update to the Apple QT Codecs package that includes a new AVC Intra CODEC! So, maybe we're not limited to .MOV wrapped MXF after all...


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D. Scott Dobbie
Re: Does FCP X still need to wrap P2 MXF footage in .mov files?
on Jan 30, 2014 at 7:02:48 am

So, you still used Log & Transfer? Except when you went to import the whole card (however many GB) it was pretty much instant? That would be great if I'm understanding you correctly.



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Mark Smith
Re: Does FCP X still need to wrap P2 MXF footage in .mov files?
on Jan 30, 2014 at 7:11:22 am

I used import media in fcpx . I selected clips or ranges of clips that I wanted to use , then import selected and brought the clips into the event browser. I wasn't bringing in whole cards. That said the process is pretty fast. Faster than fcp 7. Give it a shot .


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D. Scott Dobbie
Re: Does FCP X still need to wrap P2 MXF footage in .mov files?
on Jan 30, 2014 at 7:38:17 am

Thanks. As mentioned in the beginning, I don't yet have FCP X. Trying to plan the best way to deal with a TB of footage from an upcoming project. This is giving me more encouragement, though.



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Bret Williams
Re: Does FCP X still need to wrap P2 MXF footage in .mov files?
on Jan 30, 2014 at 4:01:31 pm

I does rewrap P2/AVC-Intra. It's fast because unlike 7 you can start working right away while it does the rewrap in the background. You don't have to transcode/optimize, but you can. You won't have the option to "leave files in place" as it has to rewrap and place them either in the library or externally to another folder.


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D. Scott Dobbie
Re: Does FCP X still need to wrap P2 MXF footage in .mov files?
on Jan 30, 2014 at 5:52:00 pm

That explains a lot, Brett. The wrapping is fine (well, I'll still budget in an extra drive for the wrapped footage, as before), but at least I won't have all the down time.

Thanks!



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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Does FCP X still need to wrap P2 MXF footage in .mov files?
on Jan 31, 2014 at 1:52:54 am

Currently, MXF4mac doesn't work with Op-Atom p2 files in FCPX (support is forthcoming), but I think Calibrated software makes a helper application that will allow to edit P2 files natively in FCPX saving a rewrap step.

http://www.calibratedsoftware.com/MXFImport_Mac.asp







It costs money, but saves time and disk space.

Jeremy


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Bill Davis
Re: Does FCP X still need to wrap P2 MXF footage in .mov files?
on Jan 31, 2014 at 10:22:39 pm

I just finished a 22 hour virtual Battan Death March Edit at a big technical conference show at 5am this morning. (I try to keep my hand in as a working editor since theory is one thing, real field experience is something else!)

Client's P2 card reader into my laptop - used SCDI to make a SparseBundle of each card as they came in. Stored those on an external 2TB FW800 drive.

Since it was one of those edit tonight show tomorrow AM deals - I didn't bother transcoding to either ProRes or Proxy - just worked with the native files.

Was able to import and cut the shows on a 1280x1024 storyline without breaking much of a sweat.

Sometimes not having taken the time to do the ProRes versions made things a wee bit more "sluggish" than I'm used to with transcoded files, but overall the whole process was pretty painless.

Bottom line: Don't worry about it. X handles P2 card field just fine. I just checked and the files technically were MXF 1440x1080 at 29.970 AVC (Component) (High 10@L4.0 CABC) AVC-Intra 50)

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