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Tom Sefton
Simple keyframing
on Aug 22, 2017 at 10:16:44 am

Good god, how frustrating is key framing in FCPX. Just simple audio fade in and outs, leave the playhead at the precise point you want it, click to add a keyframe, and it jumps 3 seconds down the file. WHY???!!!

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Scott Witthaus
Re: Simple keyframing
on Aug 22, 2017 at 10:39:52 am

[Tom Sefton] "Good god, how frustrating is key framing in FCPX. Just simple audio fade in and outs, leave the playhead at the precise point you want it, click to add a keyframe, and it jumps 3 seconds down the file."

Interesting, as I literally just did what you described without any issue. Tried multiple times and it simply did what I wanted. Of course I was zoomed in and had the clip height pretty big.

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Tom Sefton
Re: Simple keyframing
on Aug 22, 2017 at 10:43:12 am

Really odd - its occurring at random but mostly when I'm not zoomed in too close.

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Scott Witthaus
Re: Simple keyframing
on Aug 22, 2017 at 2:26:37 pm

If you turned the Skimmer off, does that change anything?

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Tom Sefton
Re: Simple keyframing
on Aug 22, 2017 at 3:19:46 pm

Already have the skimmer turned off. The only way to stop it, is to click into the audio panel, manually move one frame back and forth with the arrow keys and click to add a keyframe. If I stop the playhead and then add one it appears in totally the wrong place. Weird bug and making a long job, very frustrating.

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Scott Witthaus
Re: Simple keyframing
on Aug 22, 2017 at 4:02:08 pm

OK, will try on a different system now. Delete prefs, etc?

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Scott Witthaus
Re: Simple keyframing
on Aug 22, 2017 at 4:05:47 pm

OK, just tried on my MacPro system and everything worked fine. This morning I used a track pad and the macPro was using a USB-wired mouse. Still cannot reproduce what you are seeing. Which of course makes it more frustrating for you.

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Tom Sefton
Re: Simple keyframing
on Aug 22, 2017 at 7:37:25 pm

Deeply frustrating. New Mac Pro here as well.

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Bret Williams
Re: Simple keyframing
on Aug 23, 2017 at 1:01:16 am

Why aren't you using the fade handles or the hot keys to apply fade handles? KEy framing fades seems rather laborious, plus adjusting later isn't as simple.

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Tom Sefton
Re: Simple keyframing
on Aug 23, 2017 at 7:42:14 am

Having to cut in and out of dialogue in some documentary footage so sometimes a snippet is needed and then audio needing to be faded back out immediately. The error seems to come when trying to add directly after stopping the play head using spacebar. If I stop with spacebar and then manually move one frame back or forth with the arrow keys it works ok.

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Scott Witthaus
Re: Simple keyframing
on Aug 23, 2017 at 3:44:23 pm

[Tom Sefton] " The error seems to come when trying to add directly after stopping the play head using spacebar. "

Tried this too to see if I can duplicate what you are seeing with no luck. So, you hit the space bar to stop the playhead and option-click to set a keyframe and it jumps? Assuming that is the case, I cannot make that happen, with magnetism on or off.

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Tom Sefton
Re: Simple keyframing
on Aug 23, 2017 at 7:25:19 pm

Yes exactly - either option click or by clicking on the add keyframe button in the inspector window makes the key frame jump. If I stop the playhead and manually move one frame back it works perfectly. Weird.

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Ronny Courtens
Re: Simple keyframing
on Aug 23, 2017 at 7:38:42 pm

Hey Tom,

What is the video format you are working with?

- Ronny


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Tom Sefton
Re: Simple keyframing
on Aug 23, 2017 at 7:41:07 pm

Just 1080p prores 422HQ - admittedly it's a large library, and although each source clip can be up to 40 mins long, the selection in the project window is usually less than 3 minutes per clip.

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Bill Davis
Re: Simple keyframing
on Aug 23, 2017 at 8:02:31 pm

[Tom Sefton] "Just 1080p prores 422HQ - admittedly it's a large library, and although each source clip can be up to 40 mins long, the selection in the project window is usually less than 3 minutes per clip."

A clip in X is just a metadata extraction. It's not a "real" standalone thing that resides someplace as a discrete item in your finder.

That said, I've seen the same behavior - but not for a couple of years.

It's a real thing - and I have seen it - but it's not how the program typically works - and the good news, is that it's not something you'll face constantly in X editing.

I'd try the usual resets: preferences, reset the P-ram, etc.

This type of stuff is super frustrating.

If you DO track down what's causing it before it stops happening - PLEASE share the solution here.

And definitely send Apple a bug report - it won't be the first, but the more who do - the more attention the issue will have.

Intermittent, situational bugs like this are a bear for any software team to exterminate.

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