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Phil Balsdon
FCP X Worldwide Pricing
on Jul 2, 2011 at 11:19:41 pm

I live in Australia and I've long accepted that if I purchase an Apple product at an Apple Store or dealer outlet I'm going to pay more for the product because of delivery charges etc.

However FCP X is a download only product. In the USA the price is US$299, in Australia the download price is Aus$349. Now the Australian dollar is currently valued higher than US dollar at about US$1.06, so I should be paying about Aus$282 because there are no longer any delivery charges.

If I order a physical product from the USA on eBay I am charged the same price as someone residing in the US plus a higher delivery fee. If I order a downloadable tutorial on the internet I pay the same as a US customer plus a small transaction fee from PayPal or the credit card issuer, but I don't pay the retailer more because there are no longer delivery charges.

Any other countries around the world being persecuted by Apple in this way?

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David Roth Weiss
Re: FCP X Worldwide Pricing
on Jul 3, 2011 at 12:34:00 am

Phil,

Consider this... If the extra dosh is causing you to reconsider purchasing "X" at this time, perhaps Apple is doing you a favor?


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Phil Balsdon
Re: FCP X Worldwide Pricing
on Jul 3, 2011 at 4:34:37 am

Hi David,

He-He,
Just thought I'd make mischief whilst many other loyal customers (or maybe former customers) are laying into Apple about this whole catastrophe. I myself am not really affected, and for my business $50 - $60 is neither here nor there if the program saves me time. FCP 7 / FCS serves me well but unlike pure post houses 90% of my editing is my own work.

Lets not forget that loyal FCP customers have helped Apple to where it is and I feel dropping FCP 7 immediately has been a gross dis-service to those people who through feedback have helped make it the success it is (or was) and as a result financial profit for Apple. Apple have let those people down in favour of their own profits, somewhat immoral. I also think charging people of other nationalities extra for the same product and delivery immoral, indeed if you did this in Australia it would be a criminal offence.

I'm sure that FCP eX with upgrades will one day be all that it promised. I myself am embarking on a big and totally new and on-going project for which FCP eX would be ideal and it would make good sense to start with it now. I will probably purchase it as soon as my friend that works for Apple has shown me all that it can do. But like my bank and my tele communications provider I don't care much for the way Apple now treat their customers.

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Douglas Morse
Re: FCP X Worldwide Pricing
on Jul 3, 2011 at 2:25:23 am

Phil,

More importantly, what is the hourly wage of an editor over there versus here? And how much is a loaf of bread? Or internet service.


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Phil Balsdon
Re: FCP X Worldwide Pricing
on Jul 3, 2011 at 6:07:45 am

Not the point at all.

If you want to purchase something in Australia you pay the same as an Australian.
If you want to come to Australia and make the purchase you pay your fare to get here.
If you want me to send it to you, I'll charge the freight on top of the cost of the item.

But I don't (unless I want a criminal charge against me) say oh you are are an American so I'm going to charge you more for the item. Nor does Larry Jordan or Lynda charge me more for downloads than they charge an American, but Apple does.

Fuel about Aus$1.56 per litre, loaf of bread about $3.50. Internet $80 per month 25Gb download cap, same whether you're Australian or American or Chinese. Average annual wage about Aus$64,000, average Sydney house price $640,000.

For what it's worth USA and Australia have a free trade agreement. The US is continually complaining about the price Australia sells it wheat to other countries for.

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Gary Pollard
Re: FCP X Worldwide Pricing
on Jul 4, 2011 at 1:23:27 am

Phil.

None North-American buyers getting gouged on software prices comes as news to you? It's been happening forever.

Try checking out the US versus the non-US prices for Adobe Production Bundle, as I just did.

US$2,065 in the international store. US$1699 in the US store. NOT including packing and postage.

So I guess if you take the 50% offer you just get ripped off US$183 instead of US$366

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Neil Patience
Re: FCP X Worldwide Pricing
on Jul 3, 2011 at 5:58:45 am

Price in the UK is £179
£1 is around $1.60 US
So that's about $286 US

£1 is about $1.5 Aus dollars
So £179 is about the equivalent to $270 Aus

Allowing for the variables in exchange rates not massive difference between UK and US price

$349 Aus is about £230 so that's big premium you guys are paying over our £179

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Bill Lee
Re: FCP X Worldwide Pricing
on Jul 4, 2011 at 1:30:04 am

A big factor that you haven't considered is the addition of Goods and Services Tax (GST) levied on (as the name implies) goods and services in Australia. This tax must be included in the quoted prices, so A$349.99 is thus A$318.17 excluding GST, still above US$299 (at today's prime exchange rate US$299 = A$277.86, an A$40 difference). As the price is usually determined using a conservative exchange rate just in case the A$ falls against the US$, this would account for a couple of points difference. The last item and by no means insignificant is the concept of price points, where items are usually priced at $319.99, $329.99, $339.99 or $349.99 for marketing reasons. As you can see, a price of $319.99 is probably too close to the actual converted currency rate, so the choices were realistically one of $329.99, $339.99 and $349.99.



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Sam Cole
Re: FCP X Worldwide Pricing
on Jul 4, 2011 at 2:21:09 am

. . . and added to that they charge a small service fee for HANDLING the GST (VAT) component.

BUT . . .

In Australia I was always told by my accountant that there is NO GST on software - so I claim back the GST what the Apple store charges (as I did for the last FCP 7 upgrade)

Sam Cole
On line Mastering Facility
FCP, Avid, Adobe
Sydney, Australia


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Phil Balsdon
Re: FCP X Worldwide Pricing
on Jul 4, 2011 at 3:07:22 am

If I downloaded the FPC X software today I would be charged the equivalent of US$375. No matter what GST (10% in Australia) etc that you add this it is still considerably more than a USA based customer would pay that is going into Apple's bank account.

But there shouldn't be any GST and the cost of delivery should be the same as in the USA.

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Charles Wannop
Re: FCP X Worldwide Pricing
on Jul 4, 2011 at 6:11:25 am

While I totally agree with the spirit of your argument Phill, as has been stated before the actual discrepancy is only a few bucks and in my opinion not really worth fighting.
Contrast that to say, the thousands of dollars difference between the cost of a certain automated tape backup system (US vs Aussie street price).

As a business owner, the GST is a matter of cash-flow. Yes I have to pay it, but the Tax department give it back again (sorry - an overly simplified description of the input-credit system I know) so as long as I have something with Tax Invoice on the top I can claim it.

Oh and the Aussie App store is quite clear on the tax thing...

"The amounts payable for Service transactions are expressed inclusive of GST and each such amount includes an amount equal to the GST payable in respect of the supply to which the amount relates. If the rate of GST payable changes before the licensed Product is downloaded, the new tax rate in effect at the time of download will apply and the total amount payable will be increased or decreased so the economic benefit to Apple remains the same, irrespective of the change in rate of GST. No customers are eligible for tax exemptions for transactions made on the Services."

Charles.


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Neil Sadwelkar
FCP X India Pricing
on Jul 4, 2011 at 8:02:40 am

I bought FCP X on the India app store and my card was charged Rs. 13,976.74 for FCP X, while Motion 5 and Compressor came in at Rs. 2,329.07 each. At the US price of $ 299 for FCP X and $49 for Motion and Compressor, I was charged at Rs 46.74 to the dollar. While the official rate is Rs 44.5 to the dollar.

So, out here the card company made the extra bucks in the exchange rate while Apple got $ 299 and $ 49 from me.

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Phil Balsdon
Re: FCP X Worldwide Pricing
on Jul 14, 2011 at 11:11:01 pm

Apple yesterday reduced the price of their apps to Australian customers.

FCP X came down from Aus$349 to Aus$319, maybe they are listening.

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http://www.steadi-onfilms.com.au/


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Sam Cole
Re: FCP X Worldwide Pricing
on Jul 15, 2011 at 12:32:28 am

That is the price less the GST. They finally realised that there is NO gst on software. They have been charging gst on software for years and I have been claiming it back!

Sam Cole
On line Mastering Facility
FCP, Avid, Adobe
Sydney, Australia


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