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Tim Petherick
Using FCPX to search BMCC metadata
on Oct 20, 2015 at 3:23:33 pm

Hello,

First post here so hello everyone!

I was led to believe by a blackmagic tech guy over the phone that if, whilst shooting with the BMCC, I change the clip ID within the camera metadata (exteriors, interviews etc) then I would easily be able to search through my footage once imported into FCPX.

Following this advice I spent a 6 day shoot meticulously organising everything with clip ID's on the camera. I am now in front of the computer and can't find a way to search through the clip ID's on FCPX and also can't seem to find any advice on how to do so or if it is even possible.

Is anyone able to help or have I now got mountains of unorganised footage?


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Noah Kadner
Re: Using FCPX to search BMCC metadata
on Oct 20, 2015 at 5:35:14 pm

Which metadata view are you looking at in the Inspector? And when you say clip id- which field do you refer to?

Noah

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Tim Petherick
Re: Using FCPX to search BMCC metadata
on Oct 20, 2015 at 5:39:59 pm

I've tried all the metadata views and made a custom one to include 'clip id's'.
Clip ID is something you can assign to a clip in the metadata function of a Black Magic Cinema Camera.
Really (and what I thought I was going to be able to do) is to be able to search the whole library for clips with a certain word used in the 'clip ID' section of the BMCC.


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Noah Kadner
Re: Using FCPX to search BMCC metadata
on Oct 20, 2015 at 6:20:01 pm

Scene take and description are working?

Noah

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Tim Petherick
Re: Using FCPX to search BMCC metadata
on Oct 20, 2015 at 6:26:10 pm

When you ask if they are working what do you mean?
Searching in the browser does not return any results except for clip names and I have far too much footage to rename each clip.
Please excuse my lack of FCPX knowledge - I very recently made the switch.


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Noah Kadner
Re: Using FCPX to search BMCC metadata
on Oct 20, 2015 at 6:36:17 pm

What do you see in the Inspector for the Scene field under the Info tab.



Noah

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Tim Petherick
Re: Using FCPX to search BMCC metadata
on Oct 20, 2015 at 7:07:30 pm
Last Edited By Tim Petherick on Oct 20, 2015 at 7:08:36 pm

So I need to search my clips using the clip ID section - in this example it is "p.e."







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Noah Kadner
Re: Using FCPX to search BMCC metadata
on Oct 20, 2015 at 7:27:41 pm

I'm confused- why use the clip i.d. as a unique identifier when you've got scene/take/description available.

Noah

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Tim Petherick
Re: Using FCPX to search BMCC metadata
on Oct 20, 2015 at 7:49:41 pm
Last Edited By Tim Petherick on Oct 20, 2015 at 7:53:01 pm

Well, I initially wanted to use it because it is the largest (in the BMCC menu) unique identifier option and is at the top - this means that when I need to very quickly change the identifying word it is the first and easiest option.
After concluding the above I checked with blackmagic technical support that it would be easily searchable within FCPX - which they informed me it would be.
I chose not to use scene and take because these are both restricted to numerical values in the BMCC menu and I needed to assign specific words to clips.


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Using FCPX to search BMCC metadata
on Oct 20, 2015 at 8:21:55 pm

"Metadata with clip ID". Is that a field you created?


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Tim Petherick
Re: Using FCPX to search BMCC metadata
on Oct 20, 2015 at 8:45:31 pm

Yes, in my attempts to work it out.

Noah - could you explain what you mean? I'm still very new to FCPX.

Thanks


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Using FCPX to search BMCC metadata
on Oct 21, 2015 at 2:39:56 am

ClipID is not searchable, unfortunately. But Notes are, as well as shot/scene/take. ClipID is usually a high unique number that identifies that clip, no matter what the other metadata. It's usually alpha numeric like:

060A2B340101010501010D4313000000B1F140F6564005D5008045822CB1422F

I would image you could export an FCPXML of your Event, add the ClipID to the Notes and reimport the XML. You'd then as searchable metadata within fcpx. I don't know how exactly to do this, but my guess is that it would be possible with something like Text Wrangler.

For next time, I'd also test this workflow with the BMCC, and make sure the metadata field you've selected is searchable in X.

Another way to do this would be with clip name. If you name the clip PE_#####, you could create a smart collection called "PE" and have it search for text that includes "PE_". Or a reel name that is "p.e."

ClipID isn't the best field to gather metadata to, in my opinion.

Marker text is also searchable if you can add markers to your footage that can get imported in to FCPX.


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Tim Petherick
Re: Using FCPX to search BMCC metadata
on Oct 21, 2015 at 10:54:52 am

Thanks for that.

I've just looked in the BMCC metadata menu and i was changing the Project Name. This seems to come up as Clip ID in inspector on FCPX. Does that change anything?


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Using FCPX to search BMCC metadata
on Oct 21, 2015 at 11:29:40 am

Since Clip ID is not searchable, I don't think that helps you, unless I'm misunderstanding you.

I'm unfamiliar with the BMCC, but can you assign a custom reel name?


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Tim Petherick
Re: Using FCPX to search BMCC metadata
on Oct 21, 2015 at 11:36:17 am
Last Edited By Tim Petherick on Oct 21, 2015 at 11:36:48 am

Yes. It seems that I may have chosen the only field that is not searchable - which as previously mentioned is the most prominent field on the BMCC metadata menu!


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Using FCPX to search BMCC metadata
on Oct 21, 2015 at 12:25:32 pm

There seems like there should be others, like clip name.

A quick look at the manual even shows a keywords option? Perhaps that will help create keywords?

Or "comment" perhaps will turn in to notes?


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Tim Petherick
Re: Using FCPX to search BMCC metadata
on Oct 21, 2015 at 12:33:37 pm

Yes that's what I mean - I have chosen the only field that is not searchable.


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Noah Kadner
Re: Using FCPX to search BMCC metadata
on Oct 20, 2015 at 8:32:47 pm

Why not use the Keywords field then?

Noah

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