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Oliver Peters
OT: SSD question
on Jul 28, 2015 at 12:39:45 am

I've done a bunch of internet searching and am not getting a satisfactory answer, so I'm tossing this out to the group. I installed a Crucial MX200 500GB as a boot drive on my 2009 Mac Pro. I'm running Yosemite 10.10.4. I'm aware of the trim issues with SSDs, but I'm not sure this is the case.

What I'm seeing is a steady decline of free space on the drive. Over the course of several days, this will equal a few GB and it continues in that direction. No new files of any size are being saved to that drive in the interim, except for ongoing local mail and internet cache. Whatever is being saved would barely equal 1GB if even that.

Thoughts? Thanks.

- Oliver

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Noah Kadner
Re: OT: SSD question
on Jul 28, 2015 at 12:55:45 am

Backup or Dropbox?

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Oliver Peters
Re: OT: SSD question
on Jul 28, 2015 at 1:18:54 am

I have DropBox and Copy installed, but everything synced right after the installation and no current activity has been happening.

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Warren Eig
Re: OT: SSD question
on Jul 28, 2015 at 4:38:35 pm

Dropbox will cache files. You can empty this by using the go to command and pasting this:

/Users/yourusername/Dropbox/.dropbox.cache

Note: type your user name exactly as it is in system settings. Don't leave it as above

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Oliver Peters
Re: OT: SSD question
on Jul 28, 2015 at 11:59:11 pm

[Warren Eig] "Dropbox will cache files. You can empty this by using the go to command and pasting this:"

I checked. These locations are empty.

- Oliver

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Douglas K. Dempsey
Re: OT: SSD question
on Jul 28, 2015 at 1:35:14 am

Only thing I know of is OSX accumulating "Backup" which supposedly remains on drive until you run Time Machine (if you have been doing so). But in practice it sometimes remains even after a backup, trash, restart etc ... Then mysteriously the space becomes available again.

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Oliver Peters
Re: OT: SSD question
on Jul 28, 2015 at 1:57:02 am

[Douglas K. Dempsey] "Only thing I know of is OSX accumulating "Backup" which supposedly remains on drive until you run Time Machine"

I've checked for that but can't find anything. Searching the internet seems to mainly talk about this being a case with laptops and not desktops. I couldn't find any file that matches the name listed. Any particular file name I should be looking for?

- Oliver

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John Rofrano
Re: OT: SSD question
on Jul 28, 2015 at 1:35:48 am

[Oliver Peters] "I'm aware of the trim issues with SSDs, but I'm not sure this is the case."
Just so you know... Yosemite now supports Trim for 3rd party SSD's. Apple has included a tool called trimforce. Just open a Terminal window and use the following command: sudo trimforce enableThen reboot and that will get Trim working on your SSD. You're correct it has nothing to do with your problem but just thought you might like to know. ;-)

As for your increasing file space, do you have FCP X Libraries on that drive and could it be that you didn't copy optimized media when you restored the SSD but now as you open projects and work with them, optimized media is being generated in the background? (it's a long shot but it's all I got after Dropbox)

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Oliver Peters
Re: OT: SSD question
on Jul 28, 2015 at 1:54:14 am

[John Rofrano] "do you have FCP X Libraries on that drive and could it be that you didn't copy optimized media when you restored the SSD..."

No, the FCP X libraries are on a different internal drive. I have the FCP X Back-ups folder on the SSD, but in total, it's only about 215MB in size.

- Oliver

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Neil Sadwelkar
Re: OT: SSD question
on Jul 28, 2015 at 6:47:39 am

May not be related to your issue, but I once found large amount of cache files stored by DaVinci Resolve in the .gallery folder. It might help to look at your SSD with something that can see hidden files. Maybe by going into target mode and using another computer to look at your SSD.

Also, I've found in some instances emptying trash doesn't seem to give back space.

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Bret Williams
Re: OT: SSD question
on Jul 28, 2015 at 1:40:13 pm

I could see emptying the trash not giving back space of its a bunch of hard link media. That is media used by multiple files which is often created by FCP when duplicating or consolidating media and libraries. It duplicates the files, but doesn't take up additional space. So the space isn't given back until the last file utilizing those bits is trashed.


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Neil Sadwelkar
Re: OT: SSD question
on Jul 28, 2015 at 5:24:15 pm

Was at a (cyl MacPro) system today with a similar problem. Found 48 GB of Attic files in the user called 'Shared' where Avid stores its Attic by default.

Not sure of this is relevant, but thought I'd throw it in here anyway.

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Bill Davis
Re: OT: SSD question
on Jul 28, 2015 at 6:24:14 pm

When I notice space disappearing, I run Grand Perspective. When I do so, I typically take a snapshot of the display screen (shift command 4 - drag the snapshot selection) and then I can visually compare what my drive space looks like today verses what it looked like perhaps last week.

It's really useful for identifying large or growing drive space usage blocks that might be hidden away.

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Andrew Kimery
Re: OT: SSD question
on Jul 29, 2015 at 12:08:26 am

[Bill Davis] "When I notice space disappearing, I run Grand Perspective. "

I haven't used Grand Perspective, but I've used Omni Disk Sweeper to see what's eating up all my HDD space. If run from an Admin account it will also find hidden files (which might be the cause of the bloat). Little more info in the link below about how to get the most out of it.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5874334


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Oliver Peters
Re: OT: SSD question
on Jul 29, 2015 at 12:04:34 am

FWIW - I'm seeing this same behavior on two different Mac Pro towers - one with a Crucial and the other with an OWC. The commonality is that they both have 10.10.4 installed. The OWC installation is more recent and I've just started to monitor that. Nevertheless, it's showing signs of doing the same thing. So, I wonder if 10.10.4 is the culprit.

Out of curiosity, who out there is using a third party SSD in a Mac Pro tower running 10.10.4 as the boot drive? If so, are you seeing the same thing by any chance?

- Oliver

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John Rofrano
Re: OT: SSD question
on Jul 29, 2015 at 2:07:11 pm

[Oliver Peters] "Out of curiosity, who out there is using a third party SSD in a Mac Pro tower running 10.10.4 as the boot drive? If so, are you seeing the same thing by any chance?"
I'm using an OWC Mercury Accelsior E2 PCI Express SSD as the boot drive for my 2010 Mac Pro tower with 10.10.4 but I haven't really noticed because I'm not looking for it. I will monitor drive capacity from day to day and see if it's filling up and report back.

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Andy Edwards
Re: OT: SSD question
on Jul 29, 2015 at 5:25:29 pm

Are you running Premiere on the same system? Media Cache render files defaulting to the system drive vs a assigned 2nd or SAN drive?

I'll try and update one of my older Mac Pro's to 10.10.4 with 3rd party SSD (Samsung) and see if I have the same issue.

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Oliver Peters
Re: OT: SSD question
on Jul 29, 2015 at 5:29:54 pm

[Andy Edwards] "Are you running Premiere on the same system? Media Cache render files defaulting to the system drive vs a assigned 2nd or SAN drive?"

Yes, I am. And yes, cache is all to another drive.

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Andy Edwards
Re: OT: SSD question
on Aug 7, 2015 at 1:24:54 am

Oliver,

Just following up. Installed 10.10.4 on 3rd party SSD. Left it running for 2 days and drive space never filled up or changed. Not sure what else I could test for you on this system to see if it can reproduce your problem.

Andy Edwards


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Oliver Peters
Re: OT: SSD question
on Aug 7, 2015 at 12:18:28 pm

Over the last few weeks I've been monitoring this on a couple of different machines. At OWC's suggestion I've run several different virus scans using different tools and everything looks clean. Lately this has stabilized although I still see some minor fluctuation.

Something to note is that the greatest swing came during the CC2015 updates. I noticed in certain views of the system that hidden disk image files would show up and these were all related to some of the Adobe app installers. So my suspicion right now is that either these hidden files were not completely flushed out of the drive or that space was reserved and being held.

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John Rofrano
Re: OT: SSD question
on Aug 7, 2015 at 4:41:33 pm

Yea, I've been monitoring for about a week now and I see no significant change in the space on my OWC SSD. I don't have Adobe CC installed (I still use CS5.5) so no mysterious downloads in the background for me. ;-) i suspect CC2015 might be the culprit as well.

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