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jeff rinland
Please assist which build option for FCP X
on Mar 13, 2015 at 3:26:30 am

Option 1
Mac Pro
3.5 GHz 6 core, 32gb ram, 256gb flash, G tech 6TB G-Raid 2HD system, dual amd firepro D700, apple thunderbolt display, = $7000 CAN
or
Option 2
Imac 5k retina
4Ghz quad core i7, 16GB RAM, 1TB fusion, Promise pegasus r4 8tb (4 by 2TB) thunderbolt 2 RAID system, AMD Radeon 4GB = $5200 CAN

This computer will be used almost entirely for video editing. I am not working with 4k footage right now but would like the option to in the future. Any opinions on which build I should go with? I guess the real question would be is the amount of power I would gain with the mac pro worth spending an extra $2000 and losing that stunning 5k display...


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Michael Hoefler
Re: Please assist which build option for FCP X
on Mar 13, 2015 at 6:38:31 am

Difficult decision.

Maybe this helps a little bit:







Michael


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Eric Santiago
Re: Please assist which build option for FCP X
on Mar 13, 2015 at 12:07:47 pm

You can work with the cheapest affordable display now (I wouldnt IMHO) and upgrade to whatever is affordable later (4K and up)
The nMP has a lot more offer if you grow.
Just the ability to add more displays and peripherals.
We use a two Sonnet Echo Express III-R (rackmount version) thats home to:
REDROCKET
BMD UltraStudio 4K (via Thunderbolt 2)
BMD Extreme DeckLink
Pro Tools HDX
ATTO SAS R680

Just cant beat the future options with the nMP.

And since you posted a kick ass config, I see you mean business :)

The above runs FCPX, Avid, Pro Tools, Resolve, Adobe CC 2014 and then some.


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Brett Sherman
Re: Please assist which build option for FCP X
on Mar 13, 2015 at 12:33:13 pm

At this point, I'd probably go with the iMac (I have a new Mac Pro). The Xeon processors are getting a bit dated. My Mac Book Pro decompresses H.264 footage much faster because it's built into the i7 processor.

If you're doing a lot of rendering then the Mac Pro will probably trump the iMac. But, for editing I'm not sure there is much advantage. For less money your getting a great monitor.

One thing I would definitely do is spring for an SSD over the Fusion drive. Personally I wouldn't want anything less than 1 TB SSD.


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Herb Sevush
Re: Please assist which build option for FCP X
on Mar 13, 2015 at 1:09:30 pm

[jeff rinland] "4Ghz quad core i7, 16GB RAM, 1TB fusion, Promise pegasus r4 8tb (4 by 2TB) thunderbolt 2 RAID system, AMD Radeon 4GB = $5200 CAN"

16GB ram is a little light if your working with multiple Adobe apps and dynamic link.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin' attached to nothin'
"Deciding the spine is the process of editing" F. Bieberkopf


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jeff rinland
Re: Please assist which build option for FCP X
on Mar 13, 2015 at 8:52:26 pm

Thanks for everyone's input this has been a tough decision but I am going to go with the mac pro but not get the thunderbolt monitor which will really help with the cost.

I am likely going to buy the G-Tech 8TB hd I don't see any reason to spend the extra money on the slower Pegasus R4 since I'm more concerned with speed than data backup


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Richard Herd
Re: Please assist which build option for FCP X
on Mar 13, 2015 at 4:33:23 pm

Need more business plan details: are you growing from your current client base or are you launching a new venture?

In both cases, investing first in the backbone (scalable storage and throughput) is very wise and long term, then regardless of the computing platform you will be ok. With that in mind it's tough to beat the utility and bulletproof and service of drobo, like this one http://www.drobo.com/storage-products/b800i/ To be sure, drobo has competitors.

You may be phrasing your question a bit off: [jeff rinland] "is the amount of power I would gain with the mac pro worth spending an extra $2000 and losing that stunning 5k display..."

Because the answer is yes, narrowly tailored to power, yet the financial question you're asking is called Return on Capital Employed (ROCE). You will buy equipment ("employ capital") in order to generate more earnings than the cost of the capital. So you need to know your earnings over some period of time, like a year. If those earnings are greater than the price of the equipment, good purchase. If they are not, bad purchase.


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Erik Lindahl
Re: Please assist which build option for FCP X
on Mar 13, 2015 at 9:55:42 pm

If going the MacPro-route I'd recommend looking at a different display setup than Apple Thunderbolt Display. EIZO has some very solid screens for example.

Also, depending on what you work with, having a 512 GB internal SSD can be a huge boost in performance.

That said, if you're really on a budget the non-retina iMac is a very solid price / performer if you're on a tight budget.


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jeff rinland
Re: Please assist which build option for FCP X
on Mar 13, 2015 at 10:25:10 pm

Yeah I am def not getting the thunderbolt display I really do not need it. I think the G-tech external HD is better than the pegasus R4 too. I was thinking of doing the 256 internal with the 8TB external g tech, hopefully i wont regret not getting the 512 internal


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John Joyce
Re: Please assist which build option for FCP X
on Mar 13, 2015 at 11:13:21 pm

A factor I don't see mentioned often is the longevity of the iMac under constant serious loads.

I burned through a couple of earlier generation iMacs, and I suspect the reason was heat. I looked at a current iMac recently, and it still seems to me poorly ventilated. I could feel the hot air coming out when it was doing nothing.

On the other hand, it takes a quite a bit of work to make my late 2013 Macbook pro (with the video card) heat up seriously. The fact it has two fans was one reason I bought it.


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jeff rinland
Re: Please assist which build option for FCP X
on Mar 13, 2015 at 11:22:12 pm

Yeah that was a big part of my decision. The mac pro just stays so cool under stress. At first glance the imac looks much cheaper than the mac pro but once i start building it like a mac pro with 32gb of ram etc the price is actually fairly close since i am not buying a thunderbolt display,i think my money is better spent on the mac pro.


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Eric Santiago
Re: Please assist which build option for FCP X
on Mar 16, 2015 at 2:08:06 pm

I would also suggest a larger internal HD for those last minute project that need break neck speed I/O.

With our Mac Pro we can get over 900MBs on read/write off the 1TB Flash.

This at times comes in handy when having to process 4K and up material within FCPX.

Most of my projects sit on a GTECH 8TB GRAID2 or the Pegasus but in case the drives are OFFLINE the internal just does the job in a pinch.

Just clean it up after you are done.

Friends dont let friends work off the system drive ;)


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John Joyce
Re: Please assist which build option for FCP X
on Mar 28, 2015 at 6:38:11 am

Barefeats on heat of iMacs:

http://barefeats.com/imac5k9.html


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