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Franz Bieberkopf
Time and Change
on Oct 19, 2014 at 6:42:29 pm

I've arrived somehow, somewhere over 3 years, at 1000 posts. It might be time to retire.



I had intended to put together something of a "best-of" to mark the occasion, but as I have neither the time nor the coherent strategy to do so, I'll use the opportunity to thank everyone for the information, discussion, analysis, speculation, entertainment and general energy of engagement that this forum represents at its best.

While some still tend to view this forum as tilted either pro or con, or an open question on Apple's commitment to professionals, it's been most useful and interesting to me as a forum to understand the wider context of what editors do and how they do it, and it's been very unique as a glimpse of disparate workflows and approaches, as well as helping me to articulate some of my thoughts on my own process. In particular, it's really opened my mind to how diverse and different people's needs really are, and how any given solution is likely to have it's unique aspects. It's great to have such a deep well of knowledge and experience to reference.

Thanks, all, for that.



Here's the bow on it: I found this posting (arstechnica from the summer) interesting and relevant. It shows what some software developers really think about the value of change and the value of legacy technology by understanding it in a social context, because they're talking about the tools they rely on; put another way, it illuminates attitudes that those shaping technology have towards change (one of the ongoing, if poorly articulated themes in this forum):

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/08/keep-a-programming-la...
Some choice quotes (from article and ensuing comments):

"If it is doing what it is supposed to do well and efficiently is it really "old"?"

"Cool, modern features cannot easily be weighed against the price of fragmented installation base in popular opinion, and you run the risk of getting a reputation as an "upgrade treadmill" that requires constant effort …"

"If you change it too much, people will evaluate your competitors, since they're going to have to spend significant effort switching anyway."

"There's a few examples of the change-everything mentality really not working well in programming languages … But on the other hand there's plenty of examples of languages that keep way, way too much cruft from 20-year-old APIs in their libraries rather than break them. I think it's a bit of a balancing act. Throwing away all old code in one new release, … will result in most devs just ignoring the new language for years at minimum."

"Languages which break things too badly tend to lose. Stable languages with incremental improvements tend to win. The mix of steady, reasonable improvements on top of a solid core seems to be the key."

"Backwards compatibility wins in so many cases it's not even funny. … backwards compatibility is enough of a reason to keep a CPU architecture alive. x86 has been a monster for years; it's full of workarounds … that make it cumbersome compared to ARM when considering power consumption or die area. Yet PCs and laptops today are all running x86. And the sole reason is backwards compatibility."

"The answer is simple: Don't call new versions that aren't backward compatible with the same name."

"A rewrite is called for to solve tangible and valuable problems that out weighs all of the problems of starting over. And the smart developers usually hold off 3-5 years before jumping into a new technology or platform; how many platforms, frameworks, and APIs prove to be a dead-end after that time?"

"Personally, when it comes to programming, I think there's a small window when a language or framework is still new, that one can still break a few things and improve the thing. That works as long as there's not a lot if baggage. The downside is that shortcoming become apparent only after the language/framework gets some mileage. And sometimes it's not even about shortcomings, it's about assumptions designers have made and then people preferring to go a different way."

"Funny thing, while about computers, this could be said about a lot of other engineering. Inertia, and economics."



It's interesting to read "programmers" as "editors", and "languages" as "NLEs" - I had intended to open up this discussion by asking in what ways an NLE as like a programming language (what characteristics the two share, how they differ) (perhaps first appealing to David Lawrence and those that might know).

Thanks, and good luck with the technology and creativity.


Franz.


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Steve Connor
Re: Time and Change
on Oct 19, 2014 at 6:46:52 pm

Why on earth are you "retiring"?


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Tim Wilson
Re: Time and Change
on Oct 19, 2014 at 7:56:31 pm

I can only assume he's kidding. 1000 posts in 3 years is next to nothing. :-)

Just for grins, I checked: Steve, you have nearly 4500 hundred posts in 11 years. A lot more than my 3800-ish in 13.

The current recordholder is Jeremy Garchow, who exposes us all as the lazy slugs that we are: 27,557 posts in 10 years. There are actually 4 folks in the COW with over 20,000 posts. (Walter Biscardi, Shane Ross and Dave LaRonde are the others.)

Stats nerds can play along here.


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David Mathis
Re: Time and Change
on Oct 19, 2014 at 8:19:50 pm

Amazing how much has changed over the last decade in terms of technology and who is top dog in the NLE match.

I remember starting my video career (college) with analog format S-VHS then onto Betacam SP. Later when working for SMU football it was going to the digital tape format and the little Fisher Price camera (as it was called) which was a basic Panasonic camera.

Started out with linear editing, then moved into the direction of Avid and the Video Toaster. Now pretty much everything is a digital, file based format for the most part. Out comes HD and all interesting variety of stuff, seems as there is no longer a standard. How times have changed.

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Bret Williams
Re: Time and Change
on Oct 19, 2014 at 10:45:12 pm

Yikes! 7709 er, 7710, in 13 years here. Might have to look into the Creative Cow retirement plan too. Is there a pension?


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Noah Kadner
Re: Time and Change
on Oct 19, 2014 at 11:52:23 pm

Woohoo:

6. Noah Kadner - 15747

-Noah

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Craig Seeman
Re: Time and Change
on Oct 20, 2014 at 12:17:00 am

10. Craig Seeman - 11871
which puts me at the bottom of the top 10... only because I've been quiet lately.

2" quad worked OK, why'd they gone and change that?
Using a CMX 340 was way cool and was a step up from the Datatron.
I EMBRACE Change especially when it's for the better. ;)



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David Mathis
Re: Time and Change
on Oct 20, 2014 at 2:40:59 am

[Craig Seeman] "10. Craig Seeman - 11871"

I am probably at the bottom of the list. Not even 850 over a 6 year period.

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Bill Davis
Re: Time and Change
on Oct 21, 2014 at 7:16:43 pm

Shocked that I made it. And even more shocked that I'm in the last months totals since I've hardly been here over the past few weeks.

But what was really weird was seeing "Adobe Sponsored" right on my tail.

Such a very odd thing for somebody to name their kid.

; )

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David Lawrence
Re: Time and Change
on Oct 20, 2014 at 5:06:20 am

Franz,

I think you're one of the most well-considered, articulate and thought provoking voices in this forum. I've enjoyed your posts immensely and learned a lot from them. Thank you. I hope even if you don't post as often in the future, you'll continue to pop in every now and then and share your thoughts with us.

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Aindreas Gallagher
Re: Time and Change
on Oct 20, 2014 at 10:05:30 pm

easily the most peculiarly interesting person to have posted here as long as I've been around anyway. the fact that he's a left wing weimar fictional thief scrabbling desperately across Alexanderplatz notwithstanding. great posts.

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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Time and Change
on Oct 20, 2014 at 10:05:56 pm

I don't know what you're retiring from Franz, but I certainly hope it's not the COW!

I value your time as well as the attention you pay to language choice and diction. I also admire your near historical curation of topics and posts as they relate to the most recent discussions.

If this really is goodbye, then I thank you for your time here, and discussing (and furthering) the contentious video professional subjects with composure. Have fun on the Alexanderplatz, or at the carnival, whoever you are.

Jeremy


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David Mathis
Re: Time and Change
on Oct 21, 2014 at 4:08:32 pm

Franz,

Thank you for your insight and contribution. Please do not retire from the COW. I enjoy reading your posts. Much valuable information there.


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David Howard
Re: Time and Change
on Oct 27, 2014 at 3:12:08 am

well done mate. looks like you have contributed allot and really know your stuff. Great post and good luck

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