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Steve Connor
Logic Pro X Update
on May 13, 2014 at 7:47:19 pm

Logic Pro X updated today, meant to improve FCPX .xml import, haven't had time to try it yet though

Steve Connor
Mellowing slowly


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John Davidson
Re: Logic Pro X Update
on May 13, 2014 at 8:24:03 pm

We tested it. It loads XML about 100 times faster now (5 seconds vs 20 minutes). It also no longer creates 100 layers in the Logic project.

Retiming still doesn’t come across though.

John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.


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Steve Connor
Re: Logic Pro X Update
on May 13, 2014 at 8:33:01 pm

[John Davidson] "We tested it. It loads XML about 100 times faster now (5 seconds vs 20 minutes). It also no longer creates 100 layers in the Logic project. "

So it might actually be usable now?

Steve Connor
Mellowing slowly


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Mathieu Ghekiere
Re: Logic Pro X Update
on May 13, 2014 at 8:33:53 pm

From the release notes:

"- When Logic imports Final Cut Pro X XML, it now organizes audio tracks according to their assigned roles in Final Cut Pro.
- Audio is now exported as 24-bit in projects exported to Final Cut Pro X XML."

http://support.apple.com/kb/TS4498

Am I right in thinking that if the first one is correct, you don't need X2Pro anymore where you did before for this? (Not talking about all the other features of X2Pro)

Can anyone test this? Maybe it needs a new version of FCPX to work...


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Michael Garber
Re: Logic Pro X Update
on May 13, 2014 at 10:30:06 pm

I think you'll still need X2Pro if you are moving directly to ProTools. My understanding is that audio levels move from FCP to Protools via X2Pro. I had issues getting audio levels to move over to Logic via FCPXML.

Also, via xml, it doesn't turn off unused audio channels that have been muted in the inspector. X2Pro will do this with regular clips (but not with multiclips).

That said, the xml transfer now works with both roles and subroles (yay). It's a step in the right direction.

Michael Garber
5th Wall - a post production company
Blog: GARBERSHOP
My Moviola Webinar on Color Correcting in FCP X
My Moviola Webinar on Cutting News in FCP X


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Bret Williams
Re: Logic Pro X Update
on May 13, 2014 at 11:18:51 pm

It's a pain, but you might want to try disabling instead of muting. The disabling via cmd opt s (show audio components) then disabling tracks with V. Before Xto7 supported the muting, the disabling worked.


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Michael Garber
Re: Logic Pro X Update
on May 13, 2014 at 11:25:03 pm

Hey Bret - I would do that, but timelines can get sluggish when you have lots of poly audio files with channels turned off in the timeline vs the inspector. Disabling in the inspector seems to fix that.

Michael Garber
5th Wall - a post production company
Blog: GARBERSHOP
My Moviola Webinar on Color Correcting in FCP X
My Moviola Webinar on Cutting News in FCP X


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Bret Williams
Re: Logic Pro X Update
on May 13, 2014 at 11:26:36 pm

You do both. Disable, then you can hide/mute them.


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Michael Garber
Re: Logic Pro X Update
on May 13, 2014 at 11:51:05 pm

Didn't work for me when components were muted in the timeline and visible and also muted in the timeline and then hidden in the inspector.

Michael Garber
5th Wall - a post production company
Blog: GARBERSHOP
My Moviola Webinar on Color Correcting in FCP X
My Moviola Webinar on Cutting News in FCP X


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Bret Williams
Re: Logic Pro X Update
on May 14, 2014 at 7:31:37 pm

Too bad. It worked for Xto7. They've updated Xto7 to disregard muted inspector tracks now. Or FCPXML got updated. One or the other.


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Paul Figgiani
Re: Logic Pro X Update
on May 13, 2014 at 8:36:31 pm

Here's the updates/fixes relative to FCPX:



-paul.


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Lance Bachelder
Re: Logic Pro X Update
on May 14, 2014 at 7:39:08 am

So the big question is - is Logic complete enough to be used for sound design and final mix including surround mix for a show? I've never used it but would give it a go if there's some glowing endorsements from folks delivering shows with it.

Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Downtown Long Beach, California
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1680680/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1


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Oliver Peters
Re: Logic Pro X Update
on May 14, 2014 at 7:14:15 pm

[Lance Bachelder] "So the big question is - is Logic complete enough to be used for sound design and final mix including surround mix for a show?"

I would say so, but I'm just getting my feet wet with it. But then I'm approaching it as an editor who does some small mixing. I don't know about surround, but there are templates for setting up surround projects. For folks from only an audio post background, Logic is an interesting hybrid of a music-creation tool and a more-traditional DAW. Most of the audio folks in my neck of the woods are Pro Tools specialists, but I do know several who have shifted exclusively to Logic a number of years ago. This includes one guy who mixes on-site for themed attractions, where speaker arrangements can be all over the place.

FCP X integration is still a bit wonky even after the update. It tries to bring in a movie file, too, with the FCP XML import, but that's totally bogus. Just export a QT and line it up to the head as per the usual method. Also FCP X fades don't translate, but channels and levels do. However, anything you've muted (like audio in b-roll shots) also comes over. You really need to strip out any audio in FCP X first that you don't want on your track sheet.

Supplied plug-ins are good and anything else on the system as AU also shows up and works. There is a huge amount of additional content that needs to be downloaded (about 20GB+, I think?), but most isn't essential if you aren't a musician. Or you can download it piecemeal as you have the time, if it's too much in one gulp.

A few small niggles for me. Analog or digital scrubbing is not a standard mode, like in Audition. You have to go into an editing mode to hear that. Not a big deal for others. The size of the fader travel area in the mixer panel/window is fixed and small. If you increase the window height, you get more room for plug-in inserts, but not for the height of the fader section. That's mainly an issue for folks who like to mix "live" with the virtual faders.

- Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com


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Lance Bachelder
Re: Logic Pro X Update
on May 15, 2014 at 3:02:05 am

Thanks Oliver - I think I'll get it soon and mess around but not use it on my current gig. I have to deliver a 5.1 mix for theatrical screening so I'll stick with Vegas on this one. Hoping it great as I'd like to get away from the whole pc/mac back and forth thingy...

Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Downtown Long Beach, California
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1680680/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1


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