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Mansur Oscar
Where is the "Stretch" feature in FCPX?
on Mar 31, 2014 at 12:37:46 pm

Hi everybody,

Do you know where is the "Stretch" in FCPX? under Special Conform, there're only three selections "Fit, Fill, None" so where is the missing "Stretch" or whatever you name, that should full size the picture without any pixel eaten!, and Without using Transform and Distort (which my friend told me add values for X, -132,132,132,-132 but didn't accept it because we may have other videos with different values)
Please don't use QuickTime and Compressor or any other programs!, plugins for FCPX are acceptable because you're doing in FCPX for that thing.

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if you need the video, you can download it here (1 minute): http://www.datafilehost.com/d/9a6e336e

Hope you know the way! many thanks for answer!


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Bret Williams
Re: Where is the "Stretch" feature in FCPX?
on Mar 31, 2014 at 4:52:07 pm

In the inspector, under info, you need to tell FCP that you're using anamorphic footage. You can highlight all the anamorphic footage in the event, and choose force anamorphic in the info tab of the inspector.


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Mansur Oscar
Re: Where is the "Stretch" feature in FCPX?
on Mar 31, 2014 at 9:49:25 pm

How can I Thank You!
This is the exactly answer for 4:3 to 16:9 (or even opposite), Thanks so much!
(guru Larry Jordan didn't know that, you may know him!)


> But one thing remains! we may have some videos that they have wrong aspect ratio & sizes, for example 1920x1040 (so 40 is missed) this need to be 1920x1080 to be correct aspect ratio 16:9 Square-pixel, so will this work too with that you have answered?

here is the other video (1920x1040): http://www.datafilehost.com/d/7911b9a3
using FCPX only, let me know how do with this video!?


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Andreas Kiel
Re: Where is the "Stretch" feature in FCPX?
on Apr 1, 2014 at 9:23:41 am

You can't do that in the event. But you can select the affected clips and enter a new subrole like "bad Y".
Once your clips are in the timeline select the "bad Y" role clips and scale them vertically all at once (1080/1040 is around 104%).

Another option is – if there aren't too many clips – open them in QT Player 7 and set the visual size to 1920 x 1080. This doesn't cause any change of the file except its displayed in a different size.

-Andreas

Spherico
http://www.spherico.com/filmtools

"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby
become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will
also gaze into thee." - Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil


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Andreas Kiel
Re: Where is the "Stretch" feature in FCPX?
on Apr 1, 2014 at 9:31:26 am

You can't do that in the event. But you can select the affected clips and enter a new subrole like "bad Y".
Once your clips are in the timeline select the "bad Y" role clips and scale them vertically all at once (1080/1040 is around 104%).

Another option is – if there aren't too many clips – open them in QT Player 7 and set the visual size to 1920 x 1080. This doesn't cause any change of the file except its displayed in a different size.

-Andreas

Edit: I was wrong in your case with QT Player 7. It won't let me save your movie.

Spherico
http://www.spherico.com/filmtools

"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby
become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will
also gaze into thee." - Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil


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Mansur Oscar
Re: Where is the "Stretch" feature in FCPX?
on Apr 1, 2014 at 10:10:26 pm

Well many users have told me to use QT7, but that is the old way! even you couldn't save the movie! also I have written in my description that is not allowed to use QT, QT7, QT10 (QTX), Compressor and any other 3rd party apps (whatever the truth name), We should go forward, not backward to QT7.

Does really FCPX don't have stretch feature? sounds like it's hidden!


and what should I do?, This important feature is available in SonyVegas, How about FCPX?
May I ask this, does this feature available in the old FCP7?


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Andreas Kiel
Re: Where is the "Stretch" feature in FCPX?
on Apr 1, 2014 at 10:43:42 pm

LOL

Spherico
http://www.spherico.com/filmtools

"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby
become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will
also gaze into thee." - Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil


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Mansur Oscar
Re: Where is the "Stretch" feature in FCPX?
on Apr 1, 2014 at 11:56:55 pm

LOL? What's funny?

Am I aren't true about that?!


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Andreas Kiel
Re: Where is the "Stretch" feature in FCPX?
on Apr 2, 2014 at 9:01:32 am

Maybe I misunderstood.
But using a "plain vanilla" FCP X doesn't make sense. And that made me laugh.

You got source material which obviously has wrong aspect ratios and a bad codec for editing.
How should a NLE know what you want to do. Okay, the "Spatial Conform" in FCP X could have another option like "Fit and Fill". But you will distort pixels in most cases. They will be eaten or changed.

So why not using using a Compressor droplet to make your clips "edit friendly".

-Andreas

Spherico
http://www.spherico.com/filmtools

"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby
become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will
also gaze into thee." - Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil


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Mansur Oscar
Re: Where is the "Stretch" feature in FCPX?
on Apr 2, 2014 at 10:43:22 am

Dear Andreas Kiel,
Some of your words I could not understand, like NLE, and the plain Vanilla fcpx? I like Vanilla Ice-Cream.
Okay I will answer you the Compressor question,
First of all the video is dirty and need to be cleaned; I was used Compressor with MPEG-4 (MP4) H.264 high@L4.0 Profile (1920x1080) at 4000kbps CABAC, well clicked on Batch, and I can say it's takes at least 5-8 Hours! the video source is about 3GB and it's 01:30:00, a Surf's Up Movie. I have tried many other Profiles such AppleProRes, MOV, or MOV at H.264, ...etc, where same for taking hours. I have changed the settings too in the Advanced tap in Preferences.
And the more unknown the Quality is Fine but it adds "Max 768Bitrate" so where did that come from the MP4 Profile? it does do for all videos? (sorry I have asked that in the other section but I didn't get answer! http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/335/67550 picture included). I used QT7 also, you've did that too!
And remember, (using Compressor is not allowed in the thread) only FCPX :)

And when I use FCPX, and share the Movie to (Master file Default) it render's it so fast, just takes nearly one hour. and it's a MP4 file, but problem is the 40 pixels! and sending to Compressor takes more than 5 hours.
Bret Williams had answered part of my question... I guess he is gone.
But Please Andreas, Don't Skip me for Compressor, the Compressor have the way to stretch, I have other videos that they have wrong aspect ratio & sizes.
Your exactly question: (So why not using using a Compressor droplet to make your clips "edit friendly".) well, we may have more than videos, So I should Always convert (Compressor) the videos then Again put them to FCPX doing the work?! This will Eat the Time totally!, How would be Nice to just put them to FCPX and stretch it and TADA, just three simple steps to begin!

Now on FCPX, I'm not joking for the Stretch feature to under special conform, "Fit and Fill"??! what do you mean by this? Could you tell me what is called that to fill the missing 40 pixels? and the cartoon video 4:3 to 16:9 (anamorphic)? isn't that called "Stretch"... if you tried Windows7 to change desktop picture, you would see selections of "Center, Title, Fill, Fit, Stretch" and even that is available in sony vegas. and yes the "Title" is nonsense for videos special conform :)


Anyway, Where is the hidden Stretch feature for FCPX?, Don't take me to other apps! :D I'm Happy and I'm waiting....


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Richard Herd
Re: Where is the "Stretch" feature in FCPX?
on Apr 2, 2014 at 3:52:40 pm

Hey Mansur,


This forum is called "Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate." It's a place where folks argue about arcane video tech.

For actual assistance with Apple FCP X, try the techniques forum. Here is a link to it: http://forums.creativecow.net/fcpxtechnique


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Andreas Kiel
Re: Where is the "Stretch" feature in FCPX?
on Apr 2, 2014 at 4:03:50 pm

Anyway, Where is the hidden Stretch feature for FCPX?, Don't take me to other apps! :D I'm Happy and I'm waiting....

There is no "hidden Stretch feature" in FCP X.
Prepare your source material in a way that it will work and match a given project.

-Andreas

Spherico
http://www.spherico.com/filmtools

"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby
become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will
also gaze into thee." - Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil


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Bret Williams
Re: Where is the "Stretch" feature in FCPX?
on Apr 2, 2014 at 5:48:20 pm

A stretch feature wouldn't make much sense, and while it could be included, it would lead to more user error and distorted videos than anything else.

The only time stretching a video to fill the frame doesn't introduce distortion is when it was shot or rendered anamorphic, or with a codec that doesn't shoot fill width like DVCProHD. The latter isn't called anamorphic though, because it's native to the codec and format and the edit system recognizes that a certain distortion (stretch if you will) should be applied behind the scenes. Anamorphic however, relies in a tag in the file or the user to tell the app it's anamorphic. So if you prepared some SD footage in some other app, you should have tagged it as anamorphic and X would have applied the distortion automatically. But you can apply it in the inspector as I mentioned before after the fact.

If you want a stretch feature, just scale the X or Y independently in the inspector. Once it fills the frame, copy that setting and paste the attributes to all like clips in the sequence.

I don't know anything about all the compressor and QT stuff you guys were discussing. Doesn't seem like any need to go to compressor or QT 7. I have weened myself off QT7. Not even installed anymore.


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Bill Davis
Re: Where is the "Stretch" feature in FCPX?
on Apr 2, 2014 at 9:35:21 pm

To simplify further, here's the recipe.

In any X storyline, click on the clip you want to "stretch"

Open the inspector and go to the SCALE command.

Notice the small triangle to the left of the Scale and click to "twirl" it open.

That will give you independent control of the X and Y axis.

You can then input any size difference you want into either dimension independently. You can do the stretch by "eyeball" or you can input extremely precise numbers by double clicking on any blue "value" field and entering a numeric value including decimal points out the wazoo. (technical phrase)

Hope that helps.

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Mansur Oscar
Re: Where is the "Stretch" feature in FCPX?
on Apr 4, 2014 at 11:01:02 am

Sorry to late reply...

Well I thank to you all,

and seems at last, there is no stretch button in FCPX 10.1

Thanks again.


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