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Walter Soyka
SCRATCH gets licensed ProRes output on Windows
on Mar 19, 2014 at 6:16:42 am

http://www.assimilateinc.com/products/scratch

Is this the first officially-licensed ProRes encoder on desktop Windows?

Walter Soyka
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Erik Lindahl
Re: SCRATCH gets licensed ProRes output on Windows
on Mar 19, 2014 at 6:32:00 am

Telestreme Episode Engine has had it for some time.


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Walter Soyka
Re: SCRATCH gets licensed ProRes output on Windows
on Mar 19, 2014 at 6:34:44 am

[Erik Lindahl] "Telestreme Episode Engine has had it for some time."

Indeed, but I'm asking about desktop Windows. I thought Engine required a server edition of Windows. I could be mistaken.

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Erik Lindahl
Re: SCRATCH gets licensed ProRes output on Windows
on Mar 19, 2014 at 6:44:22 am

That could be true. But Telestreme does advertise it as their "desktop product".

That said, Engine is very expensive if you just are looking for ProRes support. The Pro-version + a Mac is virtually the same cost.


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Michael Phillips
Re: SCRATCH gets licensed ProRes output on Windows
on Mar 19, 2014 at 12:30:21 pm

Product price discussion aside, MTI's dailies system, Cortex has been making ProRes for a while as a desktop product.

Michael


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Craig Seeman
Re: SCRATCH gets licensed ProRes output on Windows
on Mar 19, 2014 at 4:44:10 pm

Cinemartin Cinec does ProRes export on Windows and has for some time.
http://www.cinemartin.com/cinec/
Standard edition only 99 Euro
http://www.cinemartin.com/cinec/buy/

In the USA
https://www.sharbor.com/vendors/CMN.html
and
http://www.adkvideoediting.com/viewitem.cfm?id=7728



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Walter Soyka
Re: SCRATCH gets licensed ProRes output on Windows
on Mar 19, 2014 at 5:04:19 pm

[Michael Phillips] "Product price discussion aside, MTI's dailies system, Cortex has been making ProRes for a while as a desktop product. "

[Craig Seeman] "Cinemartin Cinec does ProRes export on Windows and has for some time."

It's not ProRes encoding that's a big deal in this story to me. It's the big shiny Apple logo on the Assimilate web page.

As far as I know, SCRATCH is the first use of an officially-licensed Apple ProRes encoder on a Windows desktop OS. Every other product I am aware of either uses ffmpeg or their own proprietary ProRes-compatible encoder.

Walter Soyka
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Michael Phillips
Re: SCRATCH gets licensed ProRes output on Windows
on Mar 19, 2014 at 11:18:08 pm

You are correct, that is the unique difference in this story. Similar to DNxHD, if not licensed from Avid, it really can't be called DNxHD but the less enticing SMPTE name of VC-3.

Michael


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Walter Soyka
Re: SCRATCH gets licensed ProRes output on Windows
on Mar 20, 2014 at 12:57:23 am

[Michael Phillips] "You are correct, that is the unique difference in this story. Similar to DNxHD, if not licensed from Avid, it really can't be called DNxHD but the less enticing SMPTE name of VC-3. "

I think it's even a bigger deal than that. DNxHD/VC-3, being a SMPTE standard, seems somewhat more stable than the entirely proprietary ProRes.

CineForm is proprietary, too, but it's working on becoming SMPTE VC-5:
https://kws.smpte.org/kws/public/projects/project/details?project_id=15

ProRes remains proprietary, but the fact that it has now been licensed on "the other platform" is interesting -- and hopefully promising for interchange.

Walter Soyka
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Michael Phillips
Re: SCRATCH gets licensed ProRes output on Windows
on Mar 20, 2014 at 1:20:55 am

I totally agree but despite that, ProRes is used far more often as a deliverable, arhive, etc. than DNxHD.

Michael


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Gary Huff
Re: SCRATCH gets licensed ProRes output on Windows
on Mar 20, 2014 at 1:58:13 am

[Walter Soyka] "ProRes remains proprietary, but the fact that it has now been licensed on "the other platform" is interesting -- and hopefully promising for interchange."

Love to see ProRes go the way of ALAC.


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Charlie Austin
Re: SCRATCH gets licensed ProRes output on Windows
on Mar 20, 2014 at 2:28:35 am

[Walter Soyka] "ProRes remains proprietary, but the fact that it has now been licensed on "the other platform" is interesting -- and hopefully promising for interchange."

I wouldn't be surprised to see more ProRes new popping up going forward. Now that QT is officially dead/deprecated, Apple needs to get some fresh cross-platform love going... :-)

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Shawn Miller
Re: SCRATCH gets licensed ProRes output on Windows
on Mar 20, 2014 at 5:29:47 pm

[Walter Soyka] "CineForm is proprietary, too, but it's working on becoming SMPTE VC-5:
https://kws.smpte.org/kws/public/projects/project/details?project_id=15"


I did not know this.... very interesting. Thanks for sharing, Walter.

Shawn



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Daniel Ludwig
Re: SCRATCH gets licensed ProRes output on Windows
on Mar 21, 2014 at 7:39:52 am

why not use the export-plugins from mirazon:

http://www.miraizon.com/products/codecssysreq.html

good deal for 50$


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Michael Phillips
Re: SCRATCH gets licensed ProRes output on Windows
on Mar 21, 2014 at 11:52:13 am

The discussion is more on Apple approve/sanctioned ProRes on Windows system with the ability to use the term "Apple ProRes" versus Mirazon ProRes. I have this plug-in and seems to work fine in most apps, but available to Resolve. Basically any application that exposes the QuickTime export engine. But the file will say Mirazon Pro Res when looking at attributes, and not Apple ProRes as that is a licensed trademark, and whatever other symbol they can throw at it.


Michael


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