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Frank Gothmann
Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Mar 5, 2014 at 4:03:59 pm

Out of any NLE or app that can export QT (Premiere, Vegas, Edius, whatever). Great time saver for me.

http://www.miraizon.com/products/codecsoverview.html

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Michael Phillips
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Mar 5, 2014 at 4:19:16 pm

I don't see why they need to offer a Mac version of either codec or a Windows version of DNxHD, but it is nice to have ProRes encoding on Windows. Are you an actual user and you've had no issues?


Michael


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Frank Gothmann
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Mar 5, 2014 at 4:31:02 pm

Agreed, not sure why there is a Mac version or why DnxHD is included. And yes, bought it and it works flawless.

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Michael Phillips
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Mar 5, 2014 at 5:30:54 pm

Just purchased a license and installed ProRes only on my Windows system. VC3 is the SMPTE name for DNxHD and using the term DNxHD needs to be licensed, but that is another matter. The same reason that it is called "Miraizon Pro Res" in the export settings.

But that being said, I exported several flavors of Miraizon ProRes as 422, 444, LT, etc. It may be my system as it was not the fastest encode, but all cores were active but never more than 40%.

Also, some applications can see it, and other not at this time. AS long as the application uses the MoviePlayer codec selection it is available. I tested with MPEG Streamclip, Redcine X Pro, QT Pro, and Media Composer, and was able to create the files. I was not able to export using DaVinci Resolve as it does not see the codec. That is something I will bring up with them.

All in all, naming aside, it's a ProRes file and it's nice being able to create such a file on Windows and worth the $49.


Michael


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Oliver Peters
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Mar 5, 2014 at 6:04:10 pm

The big question is whether this is in spec, according to Apple. If you open the file under Mavericks in QT X and it starts its "converting" routine, then it is not a totally compliant Pro Res encode.

- Oliver

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Frank Gothmann
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Mar 5, 2014 at 6:14:57 pm

Works without problems on a Mavericks machine.

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Joseph W. Bourke
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Mar 5, 2014 at 6:28:55 pm

Has anyone used this and knows whether the codecs will show up in Adobe Media Encoder? I pored over the site and support documentation, and it's not mentioned anywhere.

Also, why should you have to pay for the AVID DNxHD codecs? Are they not free from the AVID website? Thanks...

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Frank Gothmann
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Mar 5, 2014 at 6:35:27 pm

Just tried it and yes, it works just fine in AME.

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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Mar 5, 2014 at 6:36:32 pm

Has anyone tried to load this on a KiPro for playback?


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Frank Gothmann
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Mar 5, 2014 at 6:37:50 pm

Can give it a shot. Any specific size/frame rate you want me to try?

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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Mar 5, 2014 at 6:41:02 pm

[Frank Gothmann] "Can give it a shot. Any specific size/frame rate you want me to try?"

Any standard broadcast size/rate will do.


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Frank Gothmann
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Mar 5, 2014 at 6:41:15 pm

Did a quick test with a PAL SD file. Works fine on a KiPro Rack.

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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Mar 5, 2014 at 6:41:53 pm

[Frank Gothmann] "Did a quick test with a PAL SD file. Works fine on a KiPro Rack."

Nice one.

Thanks!


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Walter Soyka
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Mar 5, 2014 at 6:39:11 pm

[Joseph W. Bourke] "Also, why should you have to pay for the AVID DNxHD codecs? Are they not free from the AVID website? "

The official, free Avid DNxHD QuickTime codec is pretty ghastly -- it's prone to weird artifacting in highlights at 10b, and its range is somewhat inconsistently read by other applications. I'd be curious to do some testing to see if Miraizon's implementation is better.

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Joseph W. Bourke
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Mar 5, 2014 at 6:43:10 pm

Thanks to both Frank and Walter. Glad to hear it works in AME. I was wondering, Walter, whether indeed this is a better implementation of the DNxHD codec. You're right about ghastly - every time I've tried to call up the preferences interface in AE, it shows up way at the top of the screen, cut off, and difficult to choose options from. Hopefully, this might present a better GUI to the user.

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Tero Ahlfors
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Apr 17, 2014 at 2:55:29 pm

[Joseph W. Bourke] " You're right about ghastly - every time I've tried to call up the preferences interface in AE, it shows up way at the top of the screen, cut off, and difficult to choose options from. Hopefully, this might present a better GUI to the user."

I'm a bit late with this, but this was fixed. Just install the latest version of the codec from Avid.


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Ben Mullins
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Mar 6, 2014 at 9:05:53 am

Walter Soyka
The official, free Avid DNxHD QuickTime codec is pretty ghastly -- it's prone to weird artifacting in highlights at 10b

Thanks Walter, I've been exporting DNxHD and getting lots of green pixels appearing in the highlights. Good to know it isn't me!



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Dennis Radeke
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Mar 7, 2014 at 9:55:52 am

The "Free" Avid codec is a quicktime wrapped version and as Walter mentioned may have issues.

True DNxHD has an MXF extension which is proper.


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Michael Phillips
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Mar 5, 2014 at 6:43:44 pm

It is available in all of Adobe CC apps that I have on my system for export. Here is what the file looks like when opened on OS X using MediaInfo:




Michael


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Mar 5, 2014 at 6:45:03 pm

You should change the audio to 48k! ;)


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Michael Phillips
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Mar 5, 2014 at 6:54:22 pm

Perhaps, but it was for my kid to play off his thumbdrive at school. Wanted to make it as playable as I could. And for dialog only... eh.

:)


Michael


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Gary Huff
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Mar 5, 2014 at 9:01:26 pm

[Michael Phillips] " Perhaps, but it was for my kid to play off his thumbdrive at school. Wanted to make it as playable as I could. And for dialog only... eh."

My experience with 44.1Khz exports from video makes the audio appear out of sync. I have plenty of instances where a client complains that the audio is out of sync and the only change I make is to render it out at 48Khz and they say that fixed it.


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Michael Phillips
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Mar 5, 2014 at 9:02:58 pm

Good to know, thanks. I got lucky with this one.

Michael


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John Donlevie
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Jan 17, 2015 at 7:33:13 pm

Multi core encoding I believe is their advantage on the Avid Codec


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Andreas Gumm
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Mar 6, 2014 at 1:19:28 am

Since Resolve uses its own QT interface, it's up to Blackmagic to support third party codecs.

Andreas


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Andreas Gumm
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Jan 17, 2015 at 7:49:49 pm

Miraizon will stop providing their products at the end of January!
They have accepted an offer of "a larger company" to be acquired.
http://www.miraizon.com/

I have doubts that we see the codec from another company in future!

I simply hope that the industry moves to a codec that makes more sense, to a codec that is widely available for different platforms. The propritairy Apple crap is not really helpful to exchange footage! I hope that Cineform will get its place in workflows since it is part of Premiere CC & now SMPTE standard.
And for sure, it is the most advanced codec actually.

Andreas

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gearoid annroi
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Feb 2, 2015 at 11:20:51 am

As of today Miraizon ProRes Codecs converter is no longer available....
http://www.miraizon.com/
http://www.miraizon.com/products/codecsoverview.html

Are there any other alternatives which will integrate into Adode Media Encoder on Windows?


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Andreas Gumm
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Feb 2, 2015 at 1:35:29 pm

There is no alternate solution at similar price tag at the moment.
You could buy Mediareactor Workstation from Drastic Technologies,
they have integrated a QuickTime Component based on ffmpeg.

Good software, but it's a bit expensive if you just need a ProRes encoder.

Andreas

Andreas Gumm
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Tamara Nartichti
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Oct 29, 2016 at 3:10:41 pm

There is also Cinemartin. It's not a free plug-in, though. Right now Cinemartin Pro is on sale 79 Euro.
http://www.cinemartin.com/cinec/buy/


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Andreas Gumm
Re: Prores Export on Win as easy as on Mac. Simply hit export.
on Oct 29, 2016 at 3:48:18 pm

Just to correct the price, it's 179 € for a non Apple certified converter, partially based on Open Source development.

They have started with a free version and a so called "Pro" version.
Later they have provided the product at an extreme price Tag.
Since they are realizing that they can't sell many licenses they force upsells by giving discounts.
I assume that they still use their strange user Interface.
I prefer Telestream Switch which can create Apple ProRss HQ422 codec.

Andreas

Andreas Gumm
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