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david james
FCPX to Youtube Color Shift?!
on Feb 13, 2014 at 10:43:20 am

Hi everyone, have been a long time lurker on this forum, lots of great info!

My issue has to do with exporting clips out of fcpx as H.264 and uploading to youtube.
There seems to be a slight shift in color. The youtube version has much more magenta and is a tad darker.
Has anyone experienced this?

heres a photo of the youtube upload vs watching it in Quicktime



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Oliver Peters
Re: FCPX to Youtube Color Shift?!
on Feb 13, 2014 at 3:44:21 pm

It's a QT gamma shift, as well as the fact that YT re-encodes anyway. Plus your QT image won't match what you see in FCP X. The same file will also look different in various players, different versions of QT and different OSs. And the YT image will look different in different browsers, as well.

Unfortunately it will never perfectly look the same and it's futile to try to make an absolute match, since everyone's computer display will be different anyway. Sorry.

- Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com


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Brian Mulligan
Re: FCPX to Youtube Color Shift?!
on Feb 13, 2014 at 5:05:23 pm

I guess we are still living in the NTSC days even on the web.
Never The Same Color.

Brian Mulligan
Senior Editor - Autodesk Smoke
WTHR-TV Indianapolis,IN, USA
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Shane Ross
Re: FCPX to Youtube Color Shift?!
on Feb 13, 2014 at 5:20:38 pm

The best you can do is make it look good on your system. You have no control over what happens after you export. Welcome to our world. In broadcast, the image NEVER looks like it did on my monitor in my bay. And on my grandma's TV? Ugh...worse. She never set it up right.


:)

Shane
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Ladislav Zamba
Re: FCPX to Youtube Color Shift?!
on Feb 13, 2014 at 10:10:11 pm

What about Premiere? Same issue?


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Shane Ross
Re: FCPX to Youtube Color Shift?!
on Feb 13, 2014 at 10:13:10 pm

Doesn't matter what you use to edit the footage. Compression is what causes the difference. Compression means throwing out data in order to make the file smaller, and color and image data is a big part of that, so the colors will change. And then YouTube compresses AGAIN....

And then there's the fact that your computer display differs from other peoples...like your friends, your parents...your work computer. They all might have different color profiles.

Shane
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david james
Re: FCPX to Youtube Color Shift?!
on Feb 13, 2014 at 10:31:13 pm

Thats crazy that we are still dealing with this! Whats the point in color correcting your footage if once uploaded it looks completely different?!


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Oliver Peters
Re: FCPX to Youtube Color Shift?!
on Feb 13, 2014 at 10:38:25 pm

[david james] "Whats the point in color correcting your footage if once uploaded it looks completely different?!"

You're talking about YouTube. The home of cat videos, you know ;-) But, FWIW - broadcast isn't much better.

- Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com


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Shane Ross
Re: FCPX to Youtube Color Shift?!
on Feb 13, 2014 at 10:48:07 pm

[Oliver Peters] " But, FWIW - broadcast isn't much better."

Exactly. No matter how much I tweak it in my bay, on my nice $5000 monitor, by the time it's compressed for the network servers, and then compressed again when they broadcast it via satellite or cable...it looks different when it hits my TV. Slight differences, reds not as red, might be less saturated. These are things beyond our control.

Compression does this to the footage....and you compress it twice before people see it...

Shane
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Scott Witthaus
Re: FCPX to Youtube Color Shift?!
on Feb 17, 2014 at 1:36:21 pm

[david james] "Whats the point in color correcting your footage if once uploaded it looks completely different?!"

To have at least some control over the final product!

Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
1708 Inc./Editorial
Professor, VCU Brandcenter


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