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John Davidson
These 4k TV's from Seiki....
on Nov 27, 2013 at 6:23:37 pm

I'm so so tempted to grab one of these in anticipation of the new Mac Pros. These prices are kind of ridiculous, even if the monitor is very barebones.
Pretty interesting write-up/video on them. He's using a macbook to drive a Thunderbolt Display as well as this 4K TV. It's a shame the iMac doesn't have a HDMI out.

http://cheesycam.com/cheapest-4k-hdmi-display-monitor-with-macbook-pro-reti...

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Marcus Moore
Re: These 4k TV's from Seiki....
on Nov 27, 2013 at 6:30:23 pm

Thanks for posting.

If you're desperate to have a 4K pixel native display, it's great to know there's something out there for under $1000. But that would be it- for colour accuracy you'd definitely need something else.



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Craig Seeman
Re: These 4k TV's from Seiki....
on Nov 27, 2013 at 11:48:08 pm

39" 4K model down to $483
http://www.amazon.com/Seiki-Digital-SE39UY04-39-Inch-Ultra/dp/B00DOPGO2G/re...
Not that one would see any difference from HD at that size.

$830 for 50"
http://www.amazon.com/Seiki-Digital-SE50UY04-50-Inch-120Hz/dp/B00BXF7I9M/re...

65" for $3000 is almost "realistic"
http://www.amazon.com/Seiki-Digital-SE65UY04-65-Inch-Ultra/dp/B00FJPO5O8/re...



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Gary Huff
Re: These 4k TV's from Seiki....
on Nov 27, 2013 at 6:38:26 pm

[John Davidson] " I'm so so tempted to grab one of these in anticipation of the new Mac Pros."

How much mastering in 4k are you doing?


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Steve Connor
Re: These 4k TV's from Seiki....
on Nov 27, 2013 at 10:56:28 pm

You don't have to deliver in 4K to get the benefit of a 4K monitor, if you are shooting in 4K.

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David Lawrence
Re: These 4k TV's from Seiki....
on Nov 27, 2013 at 6:42:05 pm

Definitely interesting. In addition to possible color issues, the Cheezycam review says it drops down to 30hz which is a bummer. Still, at that price very tempting and hopefully points to better quality affordable 4K displays soon. Thanks for posting.

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John Davidson
Re: These 4k TV's from Seiki....
on Nov 27, 2013 at 7:16:56 pm

[David Lawrence] "the Cheezycam review says it drops down to 30hz which is a bummer."

It drops down there because of the macbook limitations though, right? I would expect the Mac Pros to have no such limitations (knock on wood).

We currently do about as much 4k as we did HD in 2007 (none). 4K mastering isn't as important to me as using 4K footage - especially in an HD Comp or something like that. Our network clients won't transition to 4k for at least 5 years, I would (very optimistically) guess. I think 4K won't be feasible for broadcast until the majority of the country has gigabit internet.

In the meantime though, if I get a blackmagic cinema camera v3 next year I'd love to see videos of my dog in stunning 4k.

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David Lawrence
Re: These 4k TV's from Seiki....
on Nov 27, 2013 at 8:42:38 pm

[John Davidson] "It drops down there because of the macbook limitations though, right? I would expect the Mac Pros to have no such limitations (knock on wood)."

Hmmm, I don't know. Would be great if it worked better with new MacPro or new Retina MBPs (he was testing with last year's). I'm in the same boat as you re: 4K jobs (only one has crossed my desk in the past 5 years). What I'm more interested in is a retina quality large screen monitor. My new retina MBP has spoiled me. By comparison, my Cinema Display looks rather meh. Hoping Apple will update Mac OS to take advantage of high density displays beyond the laptop (if they haven't done so already).

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Bret Williams
Re: These 4k TV's from Seiki....
on Nov 27, 2013 at 9:12:40 pm

Somewhere it says 30htz is a limitation of 4k over hdmi 1.4


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Marcus Moore
Re: These 4k TV's from Seiki....
on Nov 27, 2013 at 9:30:29 pm

So even if Apple pushes out a HDMI2.0 firmware update, and you have an HDMI2.0 cable, the HDMI1.4 port on the TV will still be an impediment.



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Erik Lindahl
Re: These 4k TV's from Seiki....
on Nov 27, 2013 at 11:18:03 pm

Cool, but 30 Hz is VERY meh for a computer-screen.


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Martin Curtis
Re: These 4k TV's from Seiki....
on Nov 28, 2013 at 1:19:03 am

4K is a term used to describe displays with resolutions that are essentially four times that of a 1080p device – or roughly 4,000 lines wide by 2,000 lines high. The HDMI 1.4 specification supports multiple 4K formats:

3840 pixels wide by 2160 pixels high @ 24Hz | 25Hz | 30Hz
4096 pixels wide by 2160 pixels high @ 24Hz


http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_1_4/hdmi_1_4_faq.aspx#21


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John Davidson
Re: These 4k TV's from Seiki....
on Nov 28, 2013 at 1:21:08 am

Mostly I'm happy to see that someone is going to push the bottom prices, much like Vizio and LG did for HD LED's 5 or so years ago. Personally I'd prefer a cinema display option for viewing 4k, hopefully with the less reflecty glass used in the current generation iMacs.

If Apple brings out some new cinema displays with the Mac Pros I'll be all over that - if not, one Seiki wouldn't be a terrible purchase.

John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.


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Eric Santiago
Re: These 4k TV's from Seiki....
on Nov 28, 2013 at 4:06:01 pm

Sadly the Seiki option for us REDUSERs is quite an adventure :P
Here is a link if you want to go deep into this display.
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?98027-1299-Seiki-UHDTV-50-quot-...


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