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Andrew Landini
Final Cut Pro X Petition
on Jun 25, 2011 at 4:13:39 am

Here's a petition regarding Final Cut Pro X put together at the Apple support community. If you agree with the statement, your support is appreciated.

Link: http://www.petitiononline.com/finalcut/petition.html

To: Apple, Inc.

We, both the editors and affected filmmakers who rely on Final Cut Pro as a crucial business tool, do so in the same way Photoshop, Maya, Pro Tools, and other industry-standard applications are relied on by leading post-production environments. Many have invested hundreds of thousands (some even millions) of dollars in creating Final Cut Pro based companies. These are now threatened by a "prosumer-grade" product upgrade of Final Cut Pro 7 titled "Final Cut Pro X," and will likely put several of these companies out of business. The costly process of migrating studio hardware and software is a major burden, especially on studios that have made recent upgrades to support Final Cut Pro. If many had known of the Final Cut Pro X release prior to investing in expensive hardware and software licenses, most, if not all, would have sought alternative solutions.

A large corporation such as Apple, Inc. should not make "revolutionary" paradigm-shifting changes to software which can be referred to as "industry-standard". This is unfair to workers who rely on Final Cut Pro as a business tool and will devastate the Final Cut Pro community. Many editors have relied on the software since its first release and supported Apple through both the hard and easy times. Apple Inc. now has over $75 billion in assets and does not need to risk the livelihoods of its professional customers by silently discontinuing "Final Cut Pro" instead of selling it to a company willing to support working film, tv, and advertising industry professionals.

We, the Final Cut Pro community, hereby request that:

1. Final Cut Studio 3 is immediately reinstated, supported, and referred to as Apple's "professional grade" editing application.
2. Final Cut Pro is restored under a new name with the functionality and user interface of Final Cut Pro 7.
3. Final Cut Pro X is to be considered part of the iMovie family or labeled a "prosumer" product.

OR,

1. The source code to Final Cut Pro 7 is auctioned or sold to a third-party by January 1, 2012.

Sincerely,

The Undersigned


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Tom Daigon
Re: Final Cut Pro X Petition
on Jun 25, 2011 at 4:56:10 am

Very noble effort and funny at the same time ;-)

Tom Daigon
Avid DS / FCP / After Effects Editor
http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com


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Andrew Landini
Re: Final Cut Pro X Petition
on Jun 25, 2011 at 4:59:21 am

Hey, we're at 15 signatures and counting. Another 9,985 and we could make a small dent. Heck, Steve might even read half of the first sentence.


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Paul Dickin
Re: Final Cut Pro X Petition
on Jun 25, 2011 at 6:54:54 am

Hi
The petition in 2008/9 over the removal of the FireWire port in the first unibody MacBooks was short and to the point, got over 18,000 signatures. and was successful - the port was reinstated in the next model to be sold.
http://www.petitiononline.com/MB1394/petition.html

The wording of this petition is long, rambling, confused/ill-conceived, and impossible for Apple to act on.
So it can only fail. Unfortunately. :-(

This idea of an appropriately worded petition is excellent - Apple does screw up from time to time, but the FW example shows that Apple do listen and respond.
But this is not the one that will succeed. :-(



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Nigel Thompson
Re: Final Cut Pro X Petition
on Jun 25, 2011 at 9:23:25 am

That has to be the stupidest thing I've seen since this forum started. The f346778 software will be upgraded over time. Your installed fcp 7 still works and works beautifully.
If you don't wanna use it DONT!!!!!
if you have no patience and wanna go with something else shut yor hole and just go ahead and buy whatever.
Good lord why are people so stupid

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Gary Huff
Re: Final Cut Pro X Petition
on Jun 25, 2011 at 4:18:54 pm

[Paul Dickin]The petition in 2008/9 over the removal of the FireWire port in the first unibody MacBooks was short and to the point, got over 18,000 signatures. and was successful - the port was reinstated in the next model to be sold.

http://www.petitiononline.com/MB1394/petition.html


The petition clearly states that it is aiming for the return of the FireWire port in consumer notebooks, à la the MacBook and the MacBook Air. To date, Apple has not put a FireWire port in either model, so the petition was a failure.


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Paul Dickin
Re: Final Cut Pro X Petition
on Jun 25, 2011 at 6:07:47 pm

[Gary Huff] " ...à la the MacBook and the MacBook Air..."
Hi
It was the late-2008 aluminium unibody 13" Macbook that shipped without a FW port - that was the subject of the petition. The early-2009 plastic MacBook did retain the port, unchanged.

In mid-2009 Apple rebranded the aluminium unibody 13" as a MacBook Pro, with the FW port reinstated.
So that was a success.

Since it was the music production people who needed a FW port to run a multi-channel audio interface into Logic they were never concerned about the MacBook Air - it was too expensive and too underpowered for professional music production.



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Gary Huff
Re: Final Cut Pro X Petition
on Jun 25, 2011 at 6:30:35 pm

[Paul Dickin]Since it was the music production people who needed a FW port to run a multi-channel audio interface into Logic they were never concerned about the MacBook Air - it was too expensive and too underpowered for professional music production.

The petition explicitly mentions purchasing a MacBook (not Pro) or a MacBook Air. Apple added a 13" MacBook Pro with the FW800 ports...and you have no idea that the petition itself was the reason they did that in the first place.


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Phil Hoppes
Re: Final Cut Pro X Petition
on Jun 25, 2011 at 11:52:02 am

Waste of time and effort. Move on. Get over it. Get your work done and keep your customers happy.


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Andrew Landini
Re: Final Cut Pro X Petition
on Jun 25, 2011 at 6:06:54 pm

Of course everyone is right in saying it won't do anything... We're dealing with Apple here! ;)

The petition is a goodbye letter with a few over-the-top requests. The original told them to sell FCP7 to Adobe, so nothing was expected from the beginning. Maybe Avid will think twice about releasing Media Composer as Media Composer X based on Windows Movie Maker. Ha!

PS. Thanks Nigel. Pleasure to meet you too.


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Andrew Landini
Re: Final Cut Pro X Petition
on Jun 25, 2011 at 6:13:38 pm

Phil, you're absolutely right. A lot of editors are getting behind on projects arguing about this release. Time to get back to work.


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Hal Dowdy
Re: Final Cut Pro X Petition
on Jun 25, 2011 at 11:53:20 pm

This isn't exactly a human rights issue.



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Aaron Cadieux
Re: Final Cut Pro X Petition
on Jun 25, 2011 at 8:03:58 pm

This is all so pathetic. The software does not make the artist, just as the baseball bat doesn't make the hitter. FCP-X isn't going to make creative decisions for you. I've been guilty of whining on the Cow before, but this whole anti FCP-X makes me want to puke.



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Andrew Landini
Re: Final Cut Pro X Petition
on Jun 25, 2011 at 8:35:33 pm

FCP7 to FCPX is like going from a manual transmission to an automatic. The car won't drive itself in either case, but you're not winning any competitive races in an automatic.

Editing a show like Pawn Stars? Sure. Editing an Audi USA commercial? Heck no.


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Tim Parsons
Good idea, bad idea
on Jun 28, 2011 at 6:27:46 pm

All this talk about "Stop whining and get back to work; you don't need FCP in order to be good" is like telling a contractor to build an L.A. mansion with a hammer and saw. Sure a good contractor will be able to make an impressive tree-house with those tools. A *great* contractor will be able to build a basic house with those limited tools. But a mansion? Aint no way. Any contractor would need far more than a hammer and saw. He would need just about every tool in the book!

Same with FCP editors, like myself. Using FCP X, would we be able to produce some impressive shorts like local TV spots? Of course. Would we be able to produce some longer bits like simple in-house presentations? Probably. But anything of substantial scope and reach? No chance!! We would need multi-computer collaboration, proper communication with other softwares, access to old project files, and so on that FCP X simply does not offer.

Apple really messed up. They took away our tools, replaced them with limited ones, and still expect us to build the Colosseum! Not happening. If you need be reminded of the real issues, here is a comprehensive list. http://magazine.creativecow.net/article/final-cut-pro-x-whats-missing-for-s...

That being said, I think a petition, though sound in principle, is the wrong way to go. Apple needs to read the reviews, listen to the professionals who consume their product, and make the proper changes. That's how capitalism works. A petition is not going to cut it. Apple needs to take their lumps, learn, and fix it.

Anyone reminded of the "New Coke" fiasco of the 80s?

Just a thought.


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