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Devin Crane
Final Cut Pro X Managers answer missing feature questions
on Jun 24, 2011 at 8:26:28 pm

http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/23/professional-video-editors-weigh-...


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Aindreas Gallagher
Re: Final Cut Pro X Managers answer missing feature questions
on Jun 24, 2011 at 8:32:23 pm

No - david pogue shills for apple as PR and deflects criticism while holding the phone from cupertino press room to his ear.

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Greg Burke
Re: Final Cut Pro X Managers answer missing feature questions
on Jun 24, 2011 at 8:42:50 pm

Much Like iMovie when you wanna do something more complex...its a chore

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David Roth Weiss
Re: Final Cut Pro X Managers answer missing feature questions
on Jun 24, 2011 at 9:46:52 pm

[Aindreas Gallagher] "No - david pogue shills for apple as PR and deflects criticism while holding the phone from cupertino press room to his ear."

I was going to write something in response to Devin that was a little more diplomatic, but Aindreas you have pretty much got the gist of what I was gonna say, but you got it "in spades."

Meanwhile Devin, there isn't a direct quote attributed by name to a single living FCP X Manager in Pogue's now 24-hours old piece. When you write a subject header as you have here, that implies some type of official announcement where there is none, you only serve to perpetuate and exacerbate the "no information" and/or "misinformation" problem that infuriates many, many here.


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Aindreas Gallagher
Re: Final Cut Pro X Managers answer missing feature questions
on Jun 24, 2011 at 10:51:38 pm

amen sir and big time - apple have done something here that boggles the mind - they took ownership centre share of a fundamental human cultural craft, pinioned countless thousands of practitioners, and then realised they could make a software ipod from it - they literally took the craft of editing, as we had independently internalised it in our minds using the common language agreed before we were born, and mashed it down into a mulch that they could sell to a consumer base. much as apple could care a damn about that. they'd see the seas sink before they'd fail to make a dollar.

mmm - too much?

http://bit.ly/ivsrTr

(sure lets make this all our closing link wha?)


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J Hussar
Re: Final Cut Pro X Managers answer missing feature questions
on Jun 25, 2011 at 2:42:27 am

I can only say that this is it exactly. You nailed it.

I've been trying to track down the culprit and it does seem to be Randy Ubillos - he is the one who caused the iMovie fiasco where they had to have the old iMovie available for free until they could do a total re-write because even the iMovie users were angry with him!

Some defend him - like he invented NLE. I looked into - he didn't. The interface ideas were already there from Quantel and Avid. He just made synthesized the 'on the cheap' version of premiere from the real trailblazers. By the time it came to FCP 1 the paradigm was set already - media100 had a similar layout, but he is a legend now (at least in his own mind). It appears from his trail that he is the guy who now thinks he will tell the whole editing world how to edit. I don't think he should get a pass like he did with the iMovie fiasco. Not for this level of damage.



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Stuart Smith
Re: Final Cut Pro X Managers answer missing feature questions
on Jun 25, 2011 at 3:01:54 am

The interface ideas were already there from Quantel and Avid

Sorry, but if you're going to give credit to NLE's origins to Quantel and Avid, that's the equivalent of saying Toyota invented the automobile and completely ignoring Ford and Mercedes

Although Ford and Mercedes did do better than Lucas, CMX and GVG did in the NLE world.

Don't miss CMX and GVG NLE's (didn't get to try the other one), but there are plenty of days I'd give anything for a fully blown Axial, 6 Ch of KScope and 4 DCT machines

As far as accusing someone in a public forum, you should provide verifiable links/info to back it up


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Aindreas Gallagher
Re: Final Cut Pro X Managers answer missing feature questions
on Jun 25, 2011 at 3:10:58 am

indeed.

its a bit much this, its just the sheer lunacy of it, the tortured attempts to boil consumer and professional into a big pot and produce a solution - the stupidity of the goal itself is really and truly dispiriting - i accept that at file system level, its a worthy conundrum, but to then chose to mangle our little pursuit of editing, to break our carefully won bones -
- god almighty apple - We always knew you could turn, but what did editing ever do to you? surely we never slighted the shop? why did you have to go and do this to us?
there had to have been an easier way for you to make money yes?

For gods sake - couldn't you have just left us alone?

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Stuart Smith
Re: Final Cut Pro X Managers answer missing feature questions
on Jun 25, 2011 at 3:28:20 am

For gods sake - couldn't you have just left us alone?

Pretty much by EOLing FCS3 they did, and it's still, for the next 6-12 months, a perfectly acceptable piece of software. I think Apple has left everyone where they want them, still able to do business and able to make a choice of what to do in the future.

As far as "turning", Apple is a company that is doing what the people in charge there see fit.

Agree or disagree with Apple, we'll wait 6 months or so until we have to go to a contingency plan if FCPX doesnt resolve it's issues and the newest OS at that time breaks FCS3

FYI, you're contingency plan should also take into account how good you think you are at predicting Apples next move.

Will it work with the first Lion update? Will it be working with AJA, BM etc for HDCamSR 5.1 laybacks, how about 7.1, 9.2 or 11.1 audio? hmmm


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