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Charlie Austin
And now, for something completely different...
on Jun 12, 2013 at 8:18:50 pm

Requiem for 3D TV...

http://gizmodo.com/3dtv-is-officially-never-going-to-happen-512905205

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Craig Seeman
Re: And now, for something completely different...
on Jun 12, 2013 at 8:37:51 pm

Soon to be replaced by ESPN's 4K broadcasts.... right ;)



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Lance Bachelder
Re: And now, for something completely different...
on Jun 12, 2013 at 8:57:10 pm

Yeah I'd just like to see them move to 1080i...

Lance Bachelder
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Andrew Kimery
Re: And now, for something completely different...
on Jun 12, 2013 at 9:01:47 pm

[Lance Bachelder] "Yeah I'd just like to see them move to 1080i..."

I think 720p60 is a sweet spot for sports. Same temporal resolution as 1080i, very close to the same spacial resolution (especially once compression for delivery takes place) and no interlacing artifacts.


As an aside Lance, didn't your sig used to say Irvine? Have you relocated recently?


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Lance Bachelder
Re: And now, for something completely different...
on Jun 13, 2013 at 1:25:10 am

Yes moved to downtown Long Beach. You in OC?

And I'll take 1080i for sports over 720p anyway - just look at the CBS golf and football.

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Andrew Kimery
Re: And now, for something completely different...
on Jun 13, 2013 at 7:02:00 am

No, I'm up in LA where I prefer to watch sports in interlace free glory on FOX or ABC/ESPN. ;)




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Joseph W. Bourke
Re: And now, for something completely different...
on Jun 12, 2013 at 9:02:27 pm

Phew...for a moment there I thought the penguin on my television set was going to explode...

Joe Bourke
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Charlie Austin
Re: And now, for something completely different...
on Jun 12, 2013 at 9:05:20 pm

[Joseph W. Bourke] "Phew...for a moment there I thought the penguin on my television set was going to explode..."

Silly bunt...

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Jeremy Garchow
Re: And now, for something completely different...
on Jun 12, 2013 at 9:53:43 pm

1080i? You mean 540p?

;0)


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Eric Mueller
Re: And now, for something completely different...
on Jun 12, 2013 at 11:40:16 pm

[Joseph W. Bourke] "Phew...for a moment there I thought the penguin on my television set was going to explode..."

Burma!

I don't think the technology is there yet. It will pop up again in 5 years time. This is the "Laser Disc" 3D era that we're experiencing now


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Bill Davis
Re: And now, for something completely different...
on Jun 12, 2013 at 11:46:46 pm

I still think you'll see steady technological development on 3d for niche markets.

Mobile Surgery
Home Inspection (maybe tied to something that can reproduce 3d graphics of the inspected space)
CAD Generators for those zippy 3D printers,

etc.

But for entertainment, it's kinda over.

When only the center 20% of the room both horizontally and vertically can get a truly good "on-axis" 3d experience it's never going to be a crowd pleasing technology.

But it will live on where it's truly useful, IMO.

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Keith Koby
Re: And now, for something completely different...
on Jun 14, 2013 at 3:23:21 pm

It's my turn to rant...

No offense to my friends at ESPN, but, that channel was bad. The 3D was never great because shooting a live event is difficult as is and the 3D always had problems. But that wasn't the real problem with that channel. It wasn't the 3D as much as it was the compression. Cable cos were squeezing the frame compatible signal down a regular sized 15 mbs mpeg2 HD pipe. The picture is ~ twice as busy as a regular HD picture and the mpeg2 encoders just can't keep up. You'd have artifacts all over the picture and it was really a miserable experience. If you kick it up to 18.75 mbs, it does better, but then you have engineers jump off a cliff because you're giving up half a qam for a channel that has content running 12 hours a month or whatever. And even at 18.75 mbs mpeg2, 720p and 1080i 3D are not quite good enough. 1080p 23.98 is _ok_ at that bit rate, but of course, 24 is no good for live sports.

I'm speaking for myself here, not as a representative of any company. I'm very disappointed in the way that the broadcast industry destroyed 3d@home. We were in such a hurry to get 3D content up that we sacrificed quality for just some little bit of quantity. We sacrificed better technologies for the rush of being the first. The first 3D tvs available to consumers were really bad. The technology has improved remarkably in the last 2 years, but it doesn't matter now. When the early adopters had to pay exorbitant premiums for a bad experience, the well was poisoned.

Keith


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