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Lance Bachelder
Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 24, 2013 at 12:49:23 pm

I know this is the Adobe "Next" forum but thought I'd share this anyways in case someone happens upon this forum by accident...

http://www.fcp.co/final-cut-pro/news/1115-how-emmy-winning-george-to-the-re...

Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
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Craig Seeman
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 24, 2013 at 1:11:02 pm

(sarcasm)Nobody uses FCPX so he must not exist. He's just a fanboy. NBC doesn't do broadcast work, everyone knows that. Emmys are given out like door prizes, that doesn't count. It's not narrative so there! Of course he can cut it in FCPX because he doesn't have to send audio to ProTools or video to Resolve that all professionals are always required to do.(/sarcasm)

All kidding aside, I've heard similar stories quietly spoken. It seems many who use it don't seem to talk much about it because they get beat up for it. It's still not taking over many facilities as a primary tool but I still see the pattern where an individual editor emerges, having developed their FCPX skills at home, to shit an individual project or show to FCPX. Granted they're often lower budget shows... but it is happening.

Yesterday I heard at a presentation recapping NAB something to the effect, "if you're a freelancer, you should learn FCPX. You'll be getting project requests for it. Given Apple, it'll be dominant, maybe not for professionals but it will be dominant."

The above is only a paraphrase and certainly seems to have conflicting sentiments. But that may well represent the current ambiguity. The above person also said they use it a lot but can't imagine using it for long form.



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Andy Field
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 24, 2013 at 2:36:08 pm

This is an excellent play by play work flow -- and despite everything negative that's been written about FCP X, what gets lost is that many editors WANT to like it - as I do -- but I get lost in the audio mixing - we're used to creating live mixed audio keyframes for our mixes and until Apple provides and equivalent, there are alternatives that work better for us.

Andy Field
FieldVision Productions
N. Bethesda, Maryland 20852


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Craig Seeman
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 24, 2013 at 3:01:19 pm

[Andy Field] "and despite everything negative that's been written about FCP X, what gets lost is that many editors WANT to like it "

Basically FCPX is a good work in progress. As to whether it's progressed enough obviously depends on one's specific needs.

Note that he mentions audio specifically and, the features he seems to find the most important are there.

I'd guess throughout this year a whole bunch more niggles will fall.

a pattern is emerging in regards to its current professional use. It seems, news, sports, Realityish type programs (I know of a fishing show aired on a major cable network using it for example). Nothing much in the way of narrative work yet. I'd bet it's creeping into some corporate workflows as well.

I do think it's important that some of the emerging uses emphasize workflow because these is really what's needed to evaluate it.



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Lance Bachelder
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 24, 2013 at 6:51:53 pm

I've also noticed the majority of the pro photographers around the world posting to Vimeo etc - I'm talking high-end photos now dabbling in video via DSLRs are cutting in FCPX.

This will probably be one of the most watched camera tests on the Planet today - also cut in FCPX:



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Steve Connor
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 24, 2013 at 6:55:43 pm

[Lance Bachelder] "I've also noticed the majority of the pro photographers around the world posting to Vimeo etc - I'm talking high-end photos now dabbling in video via DSLRs are cutting in FCPX.

This will probably be one of the most watched camera tests on the Planet today - also cut in FCPX:

"


I hope they have a LARGE factory ready to churn those cameras out, they're going to need it.

Steve Connor

There's nothing we can't argue about on the FCPX COW Forum


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Lance Bachelder
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 24, 2013 at 7:02:43 pm

I agree - I immediately felt sorry for Canon and Nikon after watching this... a game changer in the truest sense. I'll take 3 with a side of Zuiko please...

Lance Bachelder
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Shawn Miller
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 24, 2013 at 7:35:30 pm

[Lance Bachelder] "I agree - I immediately felt sorry for Canon and Nikon after watching this... a game changer in the truest sense. I'll take 3 with a side of Zuiko please..."

LOL - I was JUST watching this before I read your post! I already have my pre-order in and I'm really anxious to see how my Voigtlander and Lumix lenses pair with this camera. I agree with you about Nikon and Canon. I also think Panasonic, Red and Sony missed the boat here. As it turns out, a lot of people really do want relatively inexpensive, high DR cameras that record lightly compressed CODECs onto commodity media... go figure.

If the BMPCC fits my needs like I think it will, my next question will be; is the higher spacial resloution and global shutter of the BMPC 4k worth the tradeoff of an extra stop in DR of the BMCC. :-)

Shawn



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Rick Lang
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 26, 2013 at 5:38:44 am

Shawn:
"If the BMPCC fits my needs like I think it will, my next question will be; is the higher spacial resloution and global shutter of the BMPC 4k worth the tradeoff of an extra stop in DR of the BMCC. :-)"

If you think the BMPCC HD rocks now that we have the first admittedly hurried and barely graded sample video, wait for the BMPC4K footage coming soon to a Vimeo near you! Should be interesting to see the ProRes 4:4:4 (HQ) HD video that you'll be able to downscale and render in post from the 4K raw.

Rick Lang

iMac 27” 2.8GHz i7 16GB


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Jim Giberti
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 24, 2013 at 8:32:57 pm

[Lance Bachelder] "I agree - I immediately felt sorry for Canon and Nikon after watching this... a game changer in the truest sense. I'll take 3 with a side of Zuiko please..."

It's funny you say that Lance,
I recently picked up a our first 4/3 cameras (a couple of GH3s for their small, slomo capability) and subsequently got new 4/3 Primes like the 45mm Zuiko - which is a great little lens.

Anyway, yeah, I've actually ordered three BMPCs.


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Craig Seeman
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 24, 2013 at 8:09:40 pm

[Steve Connor] "I hope they have a LARGE factory ready to churn those cameras out, they're going to need it."

Apparently unlike the other company Blackmagic used for the original BMCC sensor, this company knows what they're doing as far as testing and QC. It seems the design company rents the manufacturing facility as needed.

Here's an interesting article mostly on the BMPC sensor but mentions the Pocket Camera as well towards the bottom.

http://www.eoshd.com/content/10091/more-details-on-global-shutter-and-possi...

Also this speculative article.
http://www.eoshd.com/content/10091/more-details-on-global-shutter-and-possi...

and this interesting thread at EOSHD
http://www.eoshd.com/comments/topic/2483-more-details-on-global-shutter-and...



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Franz Bieberkopf
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 24, 2013 at 7:21:48 pm

[Lance Bachelder] "I've also noticed the majority of the pro photographers around the world ..."

Lance,

That's some comprehensive data you've got there. Care to share?

Franz.


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Lance Bachelder
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 24, 2013 at 10:00:49 pm

I run a worldwide database on every human on the planet and their day to day activities so you're gonna have to trust me on this one.

Sorry should have said "many" which could be a little or a lot but the "majority" of the camera tests I've been looking at on Vimeo that mention their NLE are using FCPX.

Lance Bachelder
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Joseph W. Bourke
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 24, 2013 at 10:19:02 pm

This thing has a lanc input? Game changer - wow!!!

Joe Bourke
Owner/Creative Director
Bourke Media
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Walter Soyka
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 24, 2013 at 3:06:52 pm

[Lance Bachelder] "I know this is the Adobe "Next" forum but thought I'd share this anyways in case someone happens upon this forum by accident..."

Cool article, and this line made me laugh out loud.

Walter Soyka
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Steve Connor
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 24, 2013 at 4:54:05 pm

Apple PR should grab this one and get it on their website

Steve Connor

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Charlie Austin
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 24, 2013 at 8:53:39 pm

[Steve Connor] "Apple PR should grab this one and get it on their website

Steve Connor
"


They've been alerted. Though I wouldn't be surprised if they know about it already... ;-)

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TImothy Auld
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 24, 2013 at 8:55:48 pm

I think Apple PR got that there. If not they should get new PR people.

Tim


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Charlie Austin
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 24, 2013 at 10:19:10 pm

[TImothy Auld] "I think Apple PR got that there"

I think you're correct. ;-)

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Lance Bachelder
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 24, 2013 at 6:54:01 pm

Sorry I couldn't help myself - it felt weird and somehow like I was betraying an Adobe product that isn't even shipping yet by posting something positive about FCPX lol...

Lance Bachelder
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Aindreas Gallagher
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 24, 2013 at 10:07:32 pm

[Lance Bachelder] "it felt weird and somehow like I was betraying an Adobe product that isn't even shipping yet by posting something positive about FCPX lol..."

arf! lets be fair - the one true anointed son of FCP has had a pretty good conversational run lately.
Really interesting article too - the event library always does look seriously tasty on its own monitor.

http://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics


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Dennis Radeke
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 25, 2013 at 11:02:46 am

[Walter Soyka] "[Lance Bachelder] "I know this is the Adobe "Next" forum but thought I'd share this anyways in case someone happens upon this forum by accident..."

Cool article, and this line made me laugh out loud."


Me too. ;-)


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Bob Woodhead
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 24, 2013 at 6:02:45 pm

(checking the calendar....) nope, it's not April Fool's Day....

nothing to see here, move along

(back to my FCPX edit)


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Gary Huff
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 24, 2013 at 10:34:37 pm

[Bob Woodhead] "(back to my FCPX edit)"

Yep, need all the time you can get for those workarounds!


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Brett Sherman
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 25, 2013 at 2:09:10 am

Yeah, double-clicking that sparse bundle takes FOREVER!



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Rafael Amador
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 25, 2013 at 2:25:30 am

[Steve Connor] "Apple PR should grab this one and get it on their website"
You mean to use the BM Camera clip to show what you can do with FCPX?
As a fast camera demo is OK; as a NLE test is pitiful.
rafael


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Charlie Austin
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 25, 2013 at 2:29:56 am

[Rafael Amador] "You mean to use the BM Camera clip to show what you can do with FCPX?
As a fast camera demo is OK; as a NLE test is pitiful."


No, the bit linked in the first post on this thread before it devolved into a camera discussion. Not pitiful at all...

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tony west
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 25, 2013 at 4:10:08 am

[Charlie Austin] "No, the bit linked in the first post on this thread before it devolved into a camera discussion. Not pitiful at all..."


hehehe yes, Lance started with one link but flipped his own thread with the second link ; )


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Lance Bachelder
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 25, 2013 at 6:37:50 am

Double shot of expresso for breakfast will do that sometimes...

Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Downtown Long Beach, California
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tony west
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 25, 2013 at 3:02:16 pm

I liked both post Lance, thanks


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Sandeep Sajeev
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 25, 2013 at 11:49:25 am

I'm pretty sure Mike posted about this (here, or there was a link to his blog) some time ago, and was totally shot down. Back when this forum was particularly rabid.


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 25, 2013 at 3:34:53 pm

[Sandeep Sajeev] "I'm pretty sure Mike posted about this (here, or there was a link to his blog) some time ago, and was totally shot down. Back when this forum was particularly rabid."

Great memory.

That does sound very familiar.


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 25, 2013 at 3:38:10 pm

[Sandeep Sajeev] "I'm pretty sure Mike posted about this (here, or there was a link to his blog) some time ago, and was totally shot down. Back when this forum was particularly rabid."

For posterity:

http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/335/40423


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Charlie Austin
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 25, 2013 at 8:05:53 pm

[Jeremy Garchow] "For posterity:"

Thread killer... :-)

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Mike Fernanandes
Re: Emmy Winning Show with Pretty Cool Workflow
on Apr 27, 2013 at 2:23:46 am

True Story

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