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alban egger
Quote"FCPX might win...."
on Apr 8, 2013 at 5:00:10 am

http://www.fcp.co/final-cut-pro/news/1089-speculation-about-nab-2013-and-th...

Interesting....since 10.0.6 the tide is turning.


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Greg Andonian
Re: Quote"FCPX might win...."
on Apr 8, 2013 at 6:37:38 am

Keep in mind, though, this discussion appears to have taken place before the preview of the new Premiere Pro went up. During the part about Adobe in the third video the guy on the end said that "If we could have this discussion in a couple weeks things would be a lot different.", or something like that. After seeing the Preview for CS7 (or whatever it is they're going to call it), and the excitement it's generated, I think he was on to something...

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alban egger
Re: Quote"FCPX might win...."
on Apr 8, 2013 at 11:42:18 am

Yes, maybe. It was also "might".
But considering what was said a year ago, FCPX has gained some leverage in the market again. And that alone is a step forward for Apple.



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Craig Seeman
Re: Quote"FCPX might win...."
on Apr 8, 2013 at 12:03:49 pm

Yes, I think people are taking note that Apple is filling out the feature set and workflow models. I suspect it'll take another couple of major releases (basically the rest of 2013) to round out some functions. That would mean next year FCPX will be in the running. Advances in collaborative workflow will probably be most critical.



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Richard Cardonna
Re: Quote"FCPX might win...."
on Apr 8, 2013 at 2:18:51 pm

If Adobe becomes subscription only (as rumore) Then fcpx will gain thousands of adobe refugies. Including me

Richard


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David Cherniack
Re: Quote"FCPX might win...."
on Apr 8, 2013 at 2:35:47 pm

[Richard Cardonna] "If Adobe becomes subscription only (as rumore)"

FUD

David
AllinOneFilms.com


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Richard Cardonna
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on Apr 8, 2013 at 3:26:03 pm

If by fud you mean the scotish slang, f@#k u. if not disregard

Richard


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David Cherniack
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on Apr 8, 2013 at 4:28:40 pm

[Richard Cardonna] "If by fud you mean the scotish slang, f@#k u. if not disregard"

Maybe I should have uppercased it: Fear,Uncertainty,Doubt...in other words, the stuff of rumours.

David
AllinOneFilms.com


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Andrew Kimery
Re: Quote"FCPX might win...."
on Apr 8, 2013 at 11:51:20 pm

[Richard Cardonna] "If Adobe becomes subscription only (as rumore) Then fcpx will gain thousands of adobe refugies. Including me"

Official comment from Adobe:

"We are not doing away with perpetual licenses. They will continue with CS7 and beyond.

But yes currently there is a bit of a marketing push towards Creative Cloud."


http://forums.adobe.com/message/5217645#5217645




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Chris Harlan
Re: Quote"FCPX might win...."
on Apr 9, 2013 at 6:06:08 am

[Andrew Kimery] "[Richard Cardonna] "If Adobe becomes subscription only (as rumore) Then fcpx will gain thousands of adobe refugies. Including me"

Official comment from Adobe:

"We are not doing away with perpetual licenses. They will continue with CS7 and beyond.

But yes currently there is a bit of a marketing push towards Creative Cloud."


http://forums.adobe.com/message/5217645#5217645
"


Yes. They are clearly pushing the benefits of cloud, but also are very clear that perpetual licenses will remain.


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Richard Cardonna
Re: Quote"FCPX might win...."
on Apr 9, 2013 at 1:49:17 pm

thanks for the info. anymore info.

Richard


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Chris Harlan
Re: Quote"FCPX might win...."
on Apr 9, 2013 at 5:12:46 pm

[Richard Cardonna] "thanks for the info. anymore info.

Richard
"


On what?


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Richard Cardonna
Re: Quote"FCPX might win...."
on Apr 9, 2013 at 6:51:41 pm

sorry im on a smartphone with itybity screen it was for somebody but i have forgotten.


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Chris Harlan
Re: Quote"FCPX might win...."
on Apr 9, 2013 at 1:58:35 am

[Greg Andonian] " I think he was on to something...
"


I've watching Adobe presentations today. It's pretty dang blow-away.


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Robert d'Alexis
Re: Quote"FCPX might win...."
on Apr 9, 2013 at 2:45:22 am

[Chris Harlan] "I've watching Adobe presentations today. It's pretty dang blow-away."

Would you care to express yourself further? :-)


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Richard Cardonna
Re: Quote"FCPX might win...."
on Apr 9, 2013 at 3:07:21 am

do you have a link to the presentation?

RC


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Chris Harlan
Re: Quote"FCPX might win...."
on Apr 9, 2013 at 5:35:30 am

[Robert d'Alexis] "[Chris Harlan] "I've watching Adobe presentations today. It's pretty dang blow-away."

Would you care to express yourself further? :-)
"


I will, but right now I'm pretty exhausted. Off the top of my head, the DNx support, the opening of project elements in other projects, Audition frequency splitters for 5.1 mix, advanced gain control. It just goes on and on. These guys have really worked this program. CS Next, as they seem to want to call it here, is really pretty impressive.

In other brief notes--I enjoyed my visit to Editshare. The Mac version of Lightworks should be coming in 3-4 weeks, and it looks really tight. It really is a beautiful alternative. Saw a terrific Mocha demo. Mary Poplin makes it look easy, and convinced me that I must have it. OWC has some interesting, fast, relatively inexpensive san storage. Relatively inexpensive for SAS RAIDs, that is. GoPro had a terrific both, with an excellent discount for attendees, and a bitchin' looking 4K 3D demo that was achieved with the cost of two GoPros and a stereophonic separator that they will also market. So 4K 3D @ around 1K. Who'd a thunk it? They also had all kinds of drone rigs and fancy mini helicopters sporting GoPro mounts on display.

I'm enjoying myself immensely, but I am dog tired.


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Greg Andonian
Re: Quote"FCPX might win...."
on Apr 9, 2013 at 6:58:12 am

[Chris Harlan] Off the top of my head, the DNx support

When you're feeling more energetic, I was curious- Can you change a clip or clips that are already in you project to DNxHD within Premiere after you start editing, or does it have to be imported that way?

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Chris Harlan
Re: Quote"FCPX might win...."
on Apr 9, 2013 at 8:46:18 am

[Greg Andonian] "[Chris Harlan] Off the top of my head, the DNx support

When you're feeling more energetic, I was curious- Can you change a clip or clips that are already in you project to DNxHD within Premiere after you start editing, or does it have to be imported that way?

________"


It supports both decoding and encoding of DNx MXF, so if I understand you correctly, the answer is yes.


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alban egger
Re: Quote"FCPX might win...."
on Apr 9, 2013 at 8:49:12 am

I have read the top ten new features on a blog and was kinda underwhelmed from a distance. It always looks great when they treat you, but leaning back, trying to digest it all coming over the twitter feeds and knowing what I have in FCPX.....I don´t know what I expected of Adobe. Maybe to finally give up the track-paradigm .. haha.
The dogfight between those two has now begun and we can only make sure to know both.....



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Chris Harlan
Re: Quote"FCPX might win...."
on Apr 9, 2013 at 5:08:54 pm

[alban egger] "I have read the top ten new features on a blog and was kinda underwhelmed from a distance. It always looks great when they treat you, but leaning back, trying to digest it all coming over the twitter feeds and knowing what I have in FCPX.....I don´t know what I expected of Adobe."

I suppose people are generally underwhelmed with advances they don't need or use. DNx is huge for me. With my workflow, going back and forth between my Avid and my Legacy projects is a really big deal. The ability to browse inside projects and select material is huge. I won't belabor it, but its a major update. Of course, if none of the stuff is useful to you, than you are going to be--as you say--underwhelmed.


[alban egger] "Maybe to finally give up the track-paradigm ."

I'm grateful they didn't. But, hopefully, if they ever do, they'll do it in a way that allows for instant differentiation of groups of audio elements, which is something Apple has so far failed to do.

[alban egger] "The dogfight between those two has now begun and we can only make sure to know both....."

There's no dogfight beteen X and Pr, just differing markets with a large overlap. The necessary NLEs, for me, are Pr, MC, 7 and possibly Lightworks. X is fascinating in its own right, but the need to know it is, for me, not in sight yet.


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TImothy Auld
Re: Quote"FCPX might win...."
on Apr 9, 2013 at 10:03:56 am

Did you notice any significant changes to the Premiere multicam feature? Are you still forced to work largely in the timeline? I had plans to get out there for just a day but I can see now that it's just
not gonna happen this year.

Tim


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