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Steve Connor
OK Adobe, show us what you've got!
on Apr 2, 2013 at 5:46:25 pm

NAB is fast approaching so it must be almost time for news of the next Adobe updates, what do people here want to see from CS7?

Steve Connor

There's nothing we can't argue about on the FCPX COW Forum


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Bret Williams
Re: OK Adobe, show us what you've got!
on Apr 2, 2013 at 5:56:12 pm

It'll be 6.5


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Craig Seeman
Re: OK Adobe, show us what you've got!
on Apr 2, 2013 at 6:04:29 pm

I've heard Adobe was dropping the .5 upgrade numbering system.



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Bret Williams
Re: OK Adobe, show us what you've got!
on Apr 2, 2013 at 6:28:44 pm

That's like .5 better!


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Chris Harlan
Re: OK Adobe, show us what you've got!
on Apr 2, 2013 at 6:55:22 pm

[Craig Seeman] "I've heard Adobe was dropping the .5 upgrade numbering system.
"


That's what I've heard too. And, hasn't it only been once that they've had a paid upgrade at a . release? So its not like they have a pattern of doing that. FCP did it for 4.5 as well.


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Aindreas Gallagher
Re: OK Adobe, show us what you've got!
on Apr 2, 2013 at 6:17:58 pm

here's a pretty good list of stuff they might get around to.

http://www.packafoma.com/blog/2012/09/25/adobe-premiere-pro-mac-cs6-gripes-...

there's the biggies like one project at a go, relinking nasties and that - also background rendering, smart rendering, use of preview files losslessly to speed up pro res output - all the general problems with exporting generally, the lack of an intermediate codec, even though they have actually coded one which they are using internally for adobe anywhere but will not release for user encdoding... sigh...


to be fair the track assignment is literally kind of insane, tool switching in the timeline can be a bit funky, and if I was going to be picky, the overall detail and design of the timeline, clip objects, and tool cursors lacks a lot of fit and finish.

Also the modal autosave, that even breaks in when the app is background feels a tad mad also.
Also feathered bezier masking tools please.

http://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics


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Chris Harlan
Re: OK Adobe, show us what you've got!
on Apr 2, 2013 at 6:58:23 pm

[Aindreas Gallagher] " tool switching in the timeline can be a bit funky, and if I was going to be picky, the overall detail and design of the timeline, clip objects, and tool cursors lacks a lot of fit and finish.
"


Agreed.

[Aindreas Gallagher] "Also feathered bezier masking tools please.
"


I'd sure like this, as well.


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Kevin Monahan
Re: OK Adobe, show us what you've got!
on Apr 2, 2013 at 10:03:42 pm

[Aindreas Gallagher] "Also feathered bezier masking tools please."

Behold the future of rotoscoping:



Kevin Monahan
Social Support Lead
Adobe After Effects
Adobe Premiere Pro
Adobe Systems, Inc.
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Chris Harlan
Re: OK Adobe, show us what you've got!
on Apr 2, 2013 at 10:23:31 pm

[Kevin Monahan] "[Aindreas Gallagher] "Also feathered bezier masking tools please."

Behold the future of rotoscoping:"


Oh, that was so ten days ago.


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Aindreas Gallagher
Re: OK Adobe, show us what you've got!
on Apr 2, 2013 at 10:46:06 pm

Indeed that does look surreally powerful.

well deflected sir, well deflected....

http://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics


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Lance Bachelder
Re: OK Adobe, show us what you've got!
on Apr 2, 2013 at 11:53:28 pm

Yeah it'd be cool if the PPro engineering team was as good and responsive as the After Effects and Photoshop teams... sadly not the case when I was a beta tester for several revs...

Still hoping for improvements in audio, .mxf stability (audio being out of sync, shorter than video, slower than video on files that play perfectly in Sony Vegas), fixing the file-at-a-time relinking and I agree an Adobe codec is long overdue. A total redo of the color fx and 3-way color corrector is needed - everyone I know pretty much relies on Colorista II at this point which should be embarrassing for Adobe. Also simplify hardware output with AJA, Blackmagic etc. Always a pain just to set up a preview yet FCPX was automatic with same hardware.

Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Downtown Long Beach, California
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1680680/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1


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David Cherniack
Re: OK Adobe, show us what you've got!
on Apr 3, 2013 at 2:03:51 am

[Lance Bachelder] "it'd be cool if the PPro engineering team was as good and responsive as the After Effects and Photoshop teams... sadly not the case when I was a beta tester for several revs..."

Of course things may have changed since CS3 when I believe you've said you were last a-beta testin...and it would be silly to think that they didn't change a lot more when Apple handed Adobe a potential huge chunk of its NLE customer base. For evidence, look at the acquisitions that Adobe went out and made within a few months of the X shocker. But we'll probably see what the Premiere team has been up to in the next few months, if not sooner.

David
AllinOneFilms.com


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Kevin Monahan
Re: OK Adobe, show us what you've got!
on Apr 3, 2013 at 8:09:20 pm

[Lance Bachelder] "Yeah it'd be cool if the PPro engineering team was as good and responsive as the After Effects and Photoshop teams... sadly not the case when I was a beta tester for several revs..."

I came to Adobe during CS5 and I've been very, very impressed with the Premiere Pro team. I worked on the FCP team too, so I do have a benchmark. The AE team is really awesome, I do agree with that.

Kevin Monahan
Social Support Lead
Adobe After Effects
Adobe Premiere Pro
Adobe Systems, Inc.
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Lance Bachelder
Re: OK Adobe, show us what you've got!
on Apr 3, 2013 at 9:26:52 pm

Good to hear - let's hope you guys can make the changes necessary for high-end post.

Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Downtown Long Beach, California
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1680680/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1


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Aindreas Gallagher
Re: OK Adobe, show us what you've got!
on Apr 3, 2013 at 9:28:07 pm

PPro is taking ridiculous strides.

seriously - please march on - and rightfully claim (by fief!) the broad industry editing mainstay prize tossed into the air by the madmen at apple and, you know, reap the decade's worth million or so editor user base harvest that follows. please take this baby home.

Don't make us have to get into the godforsaken magnetic timeline. We will send you cake.

http://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics


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TImothy Auld
Re: OK Adobe, show us what you've got!
on Apr 3, 2013 at 10:46:26 pm

If they just fix the audio (a concern since PP v1) and the multicam in Premiere I'll be happy.

Tim


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Walter Soyka
Re: OK Adobe, show us what you've got!
on Apr 4, 2013 at 4:54:07 am

The Adobe NAB Sneak Peeks:
http://adobe.ly/10wKtF4

I started a new thread on it over here:
http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/335/50727

Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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