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Greg Burke
FCP X pro. ANy mention of Codecs?
on Apr 15, 2011 at 8:29:20 pm

Just watching the Viral webs videos (witch are hard to hear) was there any mention of the TImeline being able to take multiple codecs without problems?

Just based on what I've read and Heard (i have not tired it out yet) Looks and sounds like Imovie pro HD and less like final cut, Knowing most consumers don't have the Storage necessary or raids to have 3-4 hour long Proress Files be it LT or HQ there most likely be cutting H.264 or AVI or mpeg or even wmv. I usually convert everything to Apple Proress just to be safe, but i didn't hear any mention of that in the Demo. Thoughts anyone?


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David Battistella
Re: FCP X pro. ANy mention of Codecs?
on Apr 15, 2011 at 8:58:46 pm

The basic idea is:

any codec in
ONE pristine CODEC out.

I think that this means mixing and matching all formats and having the timeline output a floating point output (or a custom codec if you want)

David

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Greg Burke
Re: FCP X pro. ANy mention of Codecs?
on Apr 15, 2011 at 9:03:41 pm

hmmm.ya i wasnt sure I can drop any codec into FCP 7 but I not only have to render but some codecs will cause my Final cut to crash on a regular basis, H.264 in particular


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Bret Williams
Re: FCP X pro. ANy mention of Codecs?
on Apr 15, 2011 at 10:49:44 pm

I'm not sure I understand your point. Yes, it's iMovie pro. And in the regard you speak of, iMovie is much more capable than the 12 year old code of FCP.

Space is an issue for very few people in the professional field where an hours work will buy a Terabyte or two. However, converting to pro res from other formats will lessen the quality of the video a meager bit, AND take up more space, and leave you with transcoding to do AND leave you with 2 files. So your point was?

And what does FCP 7 crashing when you put incompatible media into it have to do with FCP X?


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Greg Burke
Re: FCP X pro. ANy mention of Codecs?
on Apr 15, 2011 at 11:10:08 pm

my point is WILL FCP X handle timeline Codecs in the way the NEW ADOBE Premier does..


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Chris Borjis
Re: FCP X pro. ANy mention of Codecs?
on Apr 16, 2011 at 12:05:47 am

Look at the big screen shots.

one shows h.264 and prores clips in the bins.



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Martin Curtis
Re: FCP X pro. ANy mention of Codecs?
on Apr 16, 2011 at 12:29:00 am

Screenshot showing different codecs


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Craig Swanson
Re: FCP X pro. ANy mention of Codecs?
on Apr 16, 2011 at 6:14:19 am

I can open my FCP 7 and show you those same codecs in my bin and on the timeline...but it doesn't mean it can handle it.

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David Battistella
Re: FCP X pro. ANy mention of Codecs?
on Apr 16, 2011 at 6:43:51 am

I think that this is the point of background rendering and 64 bit. Rather than seeing red bars, the software is doing what it needs to under the hood to five the creative process.

This is why the software is leveraging so many different system resources, CPU GPU and software accelelration.

I would think that Apple has their own version of the "mercury engine".

If you really think that FCP X won't compete with Adobe then you have to rewind and figure out that it took Adobe 11 years to create a completive suite the FCStudio.

Now the bar gets raised again.

Just for the editing alone people should move over because Premier, FCP and AVID are non linear editors that base themselves on tape based OURCE RECORD idea.

That is gone in FCP X and I say ' THANK GOD!" someone is creating software with a new approach to EDITING.

David

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Francois Jean
Re: FCP X pro. ANy mention of Codecs?
on Apr 17, 2011 at 2:22:00 pm

hello creativ_s
I think that when you have one of the best editing codecs in the world ( which Adobe does not have yet ... ) by editing codec I mean a codec that will almost not deteriorate in multi-generations situations and that scrolls fluently, I don't see that this will go away. In any situation it is always wise to use ProRes on ingest and reduce problems. Even DnxHD is far more reducing in quality on the first generation than ProRes. When one gets in multinesting etc ... this is crucial. ProRes 4444 is an absolute delight at 330 mb/s it did not show any "aberration" from high end inputs and "image sequence" in a test we did using a "difference composite mode" comparison.

Viva Prores

ZAP

PS ThunderBolt should be a great tool to run in ProRes4444 , we are so lucky.


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Jerry Hofmann
Re: FCP X pro. ANy mention of Codecs?
on Apr 18, 2011 at 12:01:15 am

It was stated it would work with any codec as source. It renders it to the sequence's settings in the background as soon as you place the file in a sequence. It was intimated that all codecs will be supported.

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walter biscardi
Re: FCP X pro. ANy mention of Codecs?
on Apr 22, 2011 at 12:21:20 am

During the "sneak peek" it was said that the new FCP X will handle any codec, any framerate mixed in any timeline.

That's what was said. It was not shown. So there was an H.264 clip in a bin. I have 40 H.264 clips in a bin right now in FCP 7. Know what happens when I drop one into a timeline?

The Avid demo I saw the editor threw everything under the sun at the timeline and hit Play. The super cool thing for me was the interpolation options he had for mixing PAL and NTSC in the same timeline. He was able to completely smooth out the playback of the PAL clip in the NTSC timeline. Oh and this wasn't a single track timeline, it was multiple tracks stacks and still playing in realtime.

Kind of like what Adobe Premiere also does right now.

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