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Jason Wood
Poll: Continue w/Final Cut Pro X Or Moving On?
on Jun 22, 2011 at 10:00:54 pm

Okay, seeing that Final Cut Pro X isn't at all ready to be used in a pro workflow, I have to ask...

When it is finally time to upgrade from Final Cut Pro 7, what will you do?

- Final Cut Pro X?
- Avid?
- Premiere?
- Other?

For me, I'll probably just beef up and upgrade my current Media Composer system and go full steam ahead with it. I use MC on my day job/show so it's not much of a leap.

Even if Apple wakes up and adds every feature we expect in a pro system in one year's time... I'd still be hesitant to build a system around Final Cut Pro X. I just don't know if it will EVER be a tool people will adopt for so many reasons. At the very basic level, how it deals with projects and timelines.... weirdness.


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Jamie Franklin
Re: Poll: Continue w/Final Cut Pro X Or Moving On?
on Jun 22, 2011 at 10:21:25 pm

PPro is good enough for my needs so I'll be there on my next demanding project and using DaVinci. I even enjoy using AE again after spending a year on Nuke...Adobe is putting some good stuff out, since 2006 Apple is just putting out fluff...


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Michael Locke
Re: Poll: Continue w/Final Cut Pro X Or Moving On?
on Jun 22, 2011 at 10:53:13 pm

And for those of us who haven't invested in more than a Macbook Pro, why would they think we'd ever invest any deeper? HP, Dell, Adobe must be ecstatic. Still not a MS Windows guy, but even they don't just kill off Word (or make it entirely incompatible w previous versions). MC and Adobe look like my choice (RIP Color), and not on Mac hardware...ML


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Jamie Franklin
Re: Poll: Continue w/Final Cut Pro X Or Moving On?
on Jun 22, 2011 at 11:08:47 pm

[Michael Locke] " but even they don't just kill off Word (or make it entirely incompatible w previous versions)"

This is I think the biggest flaw and says way more than anything else. They didn't phase anything out, giving users time to adapt/adjust/find alternatives...they just flat out pulled it without warning...@#$%

For now, that just piled on the frustration, but at the end of the day, will have a longer effect on it's users...


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james carey
Re: Poll: Continue w/Final Cut Pro X Or Moving On?
on Jun 22, 2011 at 10:38:46 pm

Stick with FCP 7for as long as possible, hoping against hope FCP X will be upgraded to a professional tool. If not, I will test PPro (already use the rest of CS5 extensively) and if that doesn't work then Avid may be only recourse. But I truly hope Apple will come through for us, as it's had a great (and relatively inexpensive) run for ten years now.

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Craig Wall
Re: Poll: Continue w/Final Cut Pro X Or Moving On?
on Jun 22, 2011 at 10:39:54 pm

Apple has had tons and tons of time to think about this. They didn't merely "forget" to include features. They didn't lack time to include things they found important.

The new product reflects Apple's objectives and philosophies. And that won't change in version 2 or version 3. Apple wants to sell lots of copies and they built the app accordingly. It's a consumer tool now.

I have zero doubt that they factored in attrition in the pro market--they knew they would lose market share among high-end users. But for Apple that's not where the money is.

I had allocated money for an upgrade, but I no longer plan to upgrade.

I've been using Premiere more and more and will make that my everyday editing app.

It doesn't make any sense to get mad at Apple. They made a decision in their best interest. And I'll make my decisions in my best interest.

Go Adobe!

Life is full of funny particles.


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Arthur Bell
Re: Poll: Continue w/Final Cut Pro X Or Moving On?
on Aug 2, 2011 at 7:23:15 pm

FCP X ...reminding people of the big success Quark had moving to OS X.

...my angst with Apple for FCPX has permeated the part of my brain that used to universally recommend all things Apple.

Questions i have always enthusiastically answered 'Apple' to...

" Should I get an iPhone?" Well, there now ARE other options.

"What do think of the IPad 2?" Liked the first one but it is now slow, heavy and lacking flash. I'd look around.

" I want to move all my music to iTunes" Have you seen Spotify? I see now why Apple lawyers tried for 3 years to keep it out of the US. Its amazing. As Apple killed the album in favor of songs, I feel now more every day that Spotify will kill iTunes. Here, have an invite"

Piss off our professional work life and it seems to have slowly widening effects.

Can one even buy Quark anymore?


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Stefan Buhrmester
Re: Poll: Continue w/Final Cut Pro X Or Moving On?
on Jun 22, 2011 at 10:45:23 pm

I keep working with FCP7 until FCPX has been updated and is usable for me. At the moment I have no plans to switch to a different package.


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Andrew Corneles
Re: Poll: Continue w/Final Cut Pro X Or Moving On?
on Jun 23, 2011 at 12:25:45 am

I had no plans to switch until yesterday. I've lost
countless hours to the render bar, when FCP has not
been updated to keep up with the uber expensive hardware
that we run it on...

At this point I think lots of us are just jumping ship
because we feel (rightfully so, we're pretty much
editing with fcp4) that they've had more than enough
time to deliver a GREAT pro app.

I remember when I thought for sure that Snow Leopard was
going to bring some huge FCS update, and bring us into
64 bit use-all-the-memory-you-can world....

that never happened.

By the looks of things - you might be waiting a loooong time
until they add all the pro features they've scalped from fcp.

As a professional, I just can't justify the lack of productivity
by using a 32bit system until they may or may not bequeath us
with what we desire and need to compete with other offerings.

They know exactly what they've done with this release, and
personally it's a bit upsetting to think of the decade
we;ve been using FCP and helping create that user base and
respect for the program (despite its shortcomings) has
been parlayed into a money grab for the iSheeple / prosumers.

The name recognition will sell the app to millions, most likely,
while the installed "pro" base is just told to go punch sand.

Unfortunately this has been cupertino's MO since the dawn of the ipod.


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Russell Lasson
Re: Poll: Continue w/Final Cut Pro X Or Moving On?
on Jun 23, 2011 at 12:33:42 am

Seriously going to start training on adobe and avid. We already have adobe installed on all our systems and it works with all of our hardware.

Not change anything quite yet as we're in the middle of some big projects. But I have my doubts that FCPX will be updated enough for us even a year from now.

Russ

Russell Lasson
Colorist/Digital Cinema Specialist
Color Mill
Salt Lake City, UT
http://www.colormill.net


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