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Franz Bieberkopf
Reference Chart (Only The Best Fallacies)
on Aug 7, 2012 at 9:23:36 pm

Due to recent excesses I feel compelled to post further references.

http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/rhetological-fallacies...

(obligatory link to previous post in what may be a series)
http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/335/27465#27465

Franz.


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Chris Harlan
Re: Reference Chart (Only The Best Fallacies)
on Aug 7, 2012 at 9:47:58 pm

In that direction," the Cat said, " lives a Hatter and in that direction lives a March Hare. . . . They're both mad."
"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
Alice didn't think that proved it at all.


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Steve Connor
Re: Reference Chart (Only The Best Fallacies)
on Aug 7, 2012 at 10:14:56 pm

I've made a chart, I think this proves beyond any doubt that FCPX is faster than Legacy



Steve Connor
"The ripple command is just a workaround for not having a magnetic timelinel"
Adrenalin Television


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Chris Harlan
Re: Reference Chart (Only The Best Fallacies)
on Aug 7, 2012 at 10:21:05 pm

[Steve Connor] "I've made a chart, I think this proves beyond any doubt that FCPX is faster than Legacy

"


You got me. You got me. You got me. How do you argue with facts like that? You can't. You just can't.


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Bill Davis
Re: Reference Chart (Only The Best Fallacies)
on Aug 7, 2012 at 10:49:41 pm

Wait, wait, WAIT...

Everybody stop.

I need some time to go find a clever "cut and paste" graphic here so I can play.

Obviously simply making arguments based on one's own thinking - writing them in the open for everyone to read, judge and argue against - is inadequate.

Silly for so many of us not to understand that what we've really needed here is a GUIDE so that we dimwits can become "educated" about how to think and reason.

And how foolish of me as an individual to have expected that the regular posters here (on both sides of the issues) were already smart enough to do that for themselves.

Seriously, if you don't like what someone posts here - the standard in this forum has always been to stand up in your own words and tell us WHY you're right and they (or we) are wrong.

Cut and paste logic instruction? Really? Well, perhaps this stuff is brand new to you, so you figure it's also new to everyone else?

Fine. Here's an additional exercise that will help you even more! Go back and find comments people here have made that you think FIT your cut and paste poster thinking - and tell us why.

Yeah, I know.

That's takes effort and possibly even some original thinking - which this forum has benefited from on both sides.

Unfortunately, that's way harder than pasting a graphic.

My 2 cents.

"Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions."-Justice O'Connor


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Franz Bieberkopf
Re: Reference Chart (Only The Best Fallacies)
on Aug 7, 2012 at 11:17:51 pm

[Bill Davis] "Obviously simply making arguments based on one's own thinking - writing them in the open for everyone to read, judge and argue against - is inadequate."



[Bill Davis] "Cut and paste logic instruction? Really? Well, perhaps this stuff is brand new to you, so you figure it's also new to everyone else?"



[Bill Davis] "Yeah, I know. That's takes effort and possibly even some original thinking ... Unfortunately, that's way harder than pasting a graphic."



[Bill Davis] "Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions."-Justice O'Connor"

"Don't talk unless you can improve the silence." - Jorge Luis Borges


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Gary Huff
Re: Reference Chart (Only The Best Fallacies)
on Aug 8, 2012 at 12:53:42 am

[Franz Bieberkopf] ""Don't talk unless you can improve the silence." - Jorge Luis Borges"

I brute force this silence by just skipping over posts.


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Bill Davis
Re: Reference Chart (Only The Best Fallacies)
on Aug 8, 2012 at 4:31:16 am

Foot engaged:

(tap tap tap)

Still waiting for you to post your original thinking here...

(tap tap tap)

"Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions."-Justice O'Connor


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Herb Sevush
Re: Reference Chart (Only The Best Fallacies)
on Aug 8, 2012 at 1:54:51 pm

The statement "I find X to be faster than Legacy" is quite reasonable. It would be better if modified by the clause "in my/some workflows (describe here.)"

It is not reasonable to make the statement " X is the fastest NLE in the world. Period."

It is reasonable to make the statement that "I find the Mac/OSX environment to be superior for (reasons or conditions go here.)"

It is not reasonable to make the statement "It is well known that Mac/OSX is the best all around computer."

If you can't understand the difference between these 2 types of arguments perhaps you should consider giving another look at Franz's chart.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
---------------------------
nothin' attached to nothin'
"Deciding the spine is the process of editing" F. Bieberkopf


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Gary Huff
Re: Reference Chart (Only The Best Fallacies)
on Aug 8, 2012 at 4:19:50 pm

[Herb Sevush] "If you can't understand the difference between these 2 types of arguments perhaps you should consider giving another look at Franz's chart."

Then they'd have to turn in their Apple Corporation fanboy card!


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Alex Hawkins
Re: Reference Chart (Only The Best Fallacies)
on Aug 9, 2012 at 2:19:09 am

[Bill Davis] "Wait, wait, WAIT...

Everybody stop.

I need some time to go find a clever "cut and paste" graphic here so I can play.

Obviously simply making arguments based on one's own thinking - writing them in the open for everyone to read, judge and argue against - is inadequate.

Silly for so many of us not to understand that what we've really needed here is a GUIDE so that we dimwits can become "educated" about how to think and reason.

And how foolish of me as an individual to have expected that the regular posters here (on both sides of the issues) were already smart enough to do that for themselves.

Seriously, if you don't like what someone posts here - the standard in this forum has always been to stand up in your own words and tell us WHY you're right and they (or we) are wrong.

Cut and paste logic instruction? Really? Well, perhaps this stuff is brand new to you, so you figure it's also new to everyone else?

Fine. Here's an additional exercise that will help you even more! Go back and find comments people here have made that you think FIT your cut and paste poster thinking - and tell us why.

Yeah, I know.

That's takes effort and possibly even some original thinking - which this forum has benefited from on both sides.

Unfortunately, that's way harder than pasting a graphic.

My 2 cents."


Dear Bill,

Do take your 2 cents and go out and buy yourself a sense of humour with it.

Please.

Alex Hawkins
Canberra, Australia


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Steve Connor
Re: Reference Chart (Only The Best Fallacies)
on Aug 8, 2012 at 8:34:58 am

[Chris Harlan] "You got me. You got me. You got me. How do you argue with facts like that? You can't. You just can't.
"


To further emphasise how fast FCPX is I have produced a revised chart.



Steve Connor
"The ripple command is just a workaround for not having a magnetic timelinel"
Adrenalin Television


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Chris Harlan
Re: Reference Chart (Only The Best Fallacies)
on Aug 8, 2012 at 9:30:57 am

LOL!


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Gary Huff
Re: Reference Chart (Only The Best Fallacies)
on Aug 8, 2012 at 1:34:15 pm

Seems legit.


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Herb Sevush
Re: Reference Chart (Only The Best Fallacies)
on Aug 8, 2012 at 1:56:26 pm

Is the Cheetah cross platform?

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
---------------------------
nothin' attached to nothin'
"Deciding the spine is the process of editing" F. Bieberkopf


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Walter Soyka
Re: Reference Chart (Only The Best Fallacies)
on Aug 8, 2012 at 3:44:17 pm

Anybody have a chart on how cheetahs compare with honey badgers [link]?

I think Tufte would be proud.

Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog - What I'm thinking when my workstation's thinking
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Craig Seeman
Re: Reference Chart (Only The Best Fallacies)
on Aug 8, 2012 at 9:13:34 pm

What were you feeding the Cheetah?

If you place a Bison 300 yards away from each the Cheetah will run very fast but FCPX starts to background render. FCP legacy, on the other hand, will eventually produce a Yak.



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Steve Connor
Re: Reference Chart (Only The Best Fallacies)
on Aug 8, 2012 at 9:16:00 pm

[Craig Seeman] "FCP legacy, on the other hand, will eventually produce a Yak."

I firmly believe Bruce is there in FCPX, somewhere!

Steve Connor
"The ripple command is just a workaround for not having a magnetic timelinel"
Adrenalin Television


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Christian Schumacher
Re: Reference Chart (Only The Best Fallacies)
on Aug 9, 2012 at 12:33:46 am

[Steve Connor] "[Craig Seeman] "FCP legacy, on the other hand, will eventually produce a Yak."

I firmly believe Bruce is there in FCPX, somewhere!
"


I heard its name is Bill now...


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Bill Davis
Re: Reference Chart (Only The Best Fallacies)
on Aug 9, 2012 at 2:13:00 am

[Christian Schumacher] "I heard its name is Bill now..."

God how I wish I knew how to call him forth.

Having spent so many years in his spiritual company, I truly miss him and I will never forget the first time he trotted out in my Legacy timeline to impart some wisdom.

Anyone wants to start a "Bring Back Bruce" petition - please save room for me near the top to sign up.

"Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions."-Justice O'Connor


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John Kaley
Re: Reference Chart (Only The Best Fallacies)
on Aug 8, 2012 at 2:37:22 pm

For the youngsters. Witch logic:






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Craig Seeman
Re: Reference Chart (Only The Best Fallacies)
on Aug 8, 2012 at 9:10:04 pm

FCPX is floating. Darn!



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Chris Harlan
Re: Reference Chart (Only The Best Fallacies)
on Aug 9, 2012 at 3:57:37 am

[John Kaley] "For the youngsters. Witch logic:
"


Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science?


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