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Craig Seeman
Blackmagic adds Cintel to its arsenal
on Jul 24, 2012 at 1:20:17 pm

Surprisingly not much about this historic purchase around the interwebs.

http://www.blackmagic-design.com/press/pressdetails?releaseID=31407

http://www.cintel.co.uk/

http://fcp.co/hardware-and-software/pro/887-blackmagic-design-acquires-cint...







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Eric Santiago
Re: Blackmagic adds Cintel to its arsenal
on Jul 24, 2012 at 1:42:50 pm

I hope this doesnt push back the BMCC and Resolve 9 release.


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Tim Wilson
Re: Blackmagic adds Cintel to its arsenal
on Jul 24, 2012 at 2:18:59 pm

You're kidding, right? They should rename the company Multitasking, Inc. and just get on with buying Avid. LOL

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Walter Soyka
Re: Blackmagic adds Cintel to its arsenal
on Jul 24, 2012 at 2:27:41 pm

Everyone thinks "film scanner" when they hear Cintel, but their image processing technologies (grain management, stabilization, and restoration) seem to be a good fit with BMD's other recent acquisitions.

Ten years ago, BMD was selling a low-cost uncompressed 10-bit SDI card that worked with Mac OS X. Today, they own DaVinci, EchoLab, Teranex, and now Cintel. Wow.

Walter Soyka
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Gary Hazen
Re: Blackmagic adds Cintel to its arsenal
on Jul 24, 2012 at 2:36:41 pm

[Walter Soyka] "Wow."

That pretty much sums it up. BMD seems to have an endless supply of cash.


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Bernhard Grininger
Re: Blackmagic adds Cintel to its arsenal
on Jul 24, 2012 at 2:48:52 pm

I hope TheFoundy would join them some day
and BMD would let their fingers from Avid - because I like BMD!

And TheFoundry technology would be such a great fit...


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Joseph Owens
Re: Blackmagic adds Cintel to its arsenal
on Jul 24, 2012 at 4:21:55 pm

[Walter Soyka] "Everyone thinks "film scanner" when they hear Cintel"

Well, at least "telecine", but the noise and dirt-fix technologies (some similar toor licensed with Kodak "Ice") would fill in some gaps.

Pesonally, I've been lusting after a diTTo for years, and now that they will be priced at about $5K, might be the time to set aside the funds...

jPo

"I always pass on free advice -- its never of any use to me" Oscar Wilde.


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Walter Soyka
Re: Blackmagic adds Cintel to its arsenal
on Jul 24, 2012 at 4:42:16 pm

[Walter Soyka] "Everyone thinks "film scanner" when they hear Cintel"

[Joseph Owens] "Well, at least "telecine""

Conceded!


[Joseph Owens] "Pesonally, I've been lusting after a diTTo for years, and now that they will be priced at about $5K, might be the time to set aside the funds..."

They did drop the cost of the Teranex, so maybe they will drop the cost of the diTTO as well. 4K for $4k?

Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
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Gustavo Bermudas
Re: Blackmagic adds Cintel to its arsenal
on Jul 24, 2012 at 5:18:52 pm

Hopefully now we will see Revival ported on the Mac. Interesting though, since film is pretty much dead. I guess restoration and 2D to 3D conversion will become cheaper and more accessible now.

At the same time, they're about to revolutionize digital filmmaking with their new camera, and now they cover film!

I think if they can do something like Autodesk Smoke (NLE + VFX) they will definitely conquer the world. I posted in another thread recently that VFX and Color seems to be merging, and whoever covers both will definitely be the winner, but you have to have a NLE. Autodesk may have it easier since all they have to do is throw Lustre in Smoke, BM will have to acquire and develop new products. Which makes me wonder, why Adobe hasn't yet? Is it because they're too modular? We'll see once Speedgrade works with video cards, right now is unusable.


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Bernhard Grininger
Re: Blackmagic adds Cintel to its arsenal
on Jul 24, 2012 at 6:54:17 pm

[Gustavo Bermudas] "Autodesk may have it easier since all they have to do is throw Lustre in Smoke"

They already have thrown Lustre into Smoke as well as Flame. They call it "Flame Premium":
http://images.autodesk.com/adsk/files/flame_flameprem_flare_2013_brochure_e...

I think, sooner or later, Autodesk will EOL Flame Premium and Smoke on Mac will be left (with full functionality).
A 'Premium' market segmentation doesn't make any sense any more in the 21st century;
BMD's model with Resolve vs. ResolveLite is the way to go.



[Gustavo Bermudas] "BM will have to acquire and develop new products"

This is the reason I hope BMD acquires TheFoundry anytime in the future.
Because they have exactly what BMD is missing for a world-class Finishing App based on Resolve:
- They have the algorithms BMD is missing and the interface know-how of Storm.
- Their technology is also extensively GPU accelerated.
- They have know-how on databases and workflow, so media-management.
- A PERFECT match!


At the other hand an often proclaimed acquisition of Avid would lead BMD unnecessarily into a financial disaster.



Best regards


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Michael Aranyshev
Re: Blackmagic adds Cintel to its arsenal
on Jul 24, 2012 at 8:04:23 pm

[Walter Soyka] "so maybe they will drop the cost of the diTTO as well. 4K for $4k?"

Too many precisely machined moving parts.


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Walter Soyka
Re: Blackmagic adds Cintel to its arsenal
on Jul 24, 2012 at 8:07:07 pm

[Michael Aranyshev] "Too many precisely machined moving parts."

Outstanding point. The panels still cost real money, too. Teranex can be cheap because, since it's just electronics, it can be cheaply made?

Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
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Tim Wilson
Re: Blackmagic adds Cintel to its arsenal
on Jul 24, 2012 at 8:14:19 pm

Exactly. They were able to reduce size, make it quieter, add T-bolt and drop the price by NINETY percent because they COULD. I don't think they dropped the price of the Resolve panel much, if at all.

Kidding aside, I don't think Avid would make a great fit...but if Grant wanted to make it fit, I have no doubt he could. LOL

Tim Wilson
Vice President, Editor-in-Chief
Creative COW Magazine
Twitter: timdoubleyou

The typos here are most likely because I'm, a) typing this on my phone; and b) an idiot.


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Michael Aranyshev
Re: Blackmagic adds Cintel to its arsenal
on Jul 24, 2012 at 8:46:16 pm

Same thing with cameras vs lenses. Lenses still cost dearly.


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Dwaine Maggart
Re: Blackmagic adds Cintel to its arsenal
on Jul 24, 2012 at 11:14:14 pm

The price of the Resolve panels was in the $75K range before BMD bought DaVinci.

Dwaine Maggart
Blackmagic Design DaVinci Support


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Joseph Owens
Re: Blackmagic adds Cintel to its arsenal
on Jul 25, 2012 at 3:38:36 pm

[Dwaine Maggart] " price of the Resolve panels was in the $75K range"

...and they contain some very finely machined parts. I am being tongue-in-cheek, though, obviously, I hope I really didn't need to point that out. However, I do recall the price of a gate for an URSA being in the $20K ballpark, but just like any stealth bomber design, most of the cost is actually in the R&D. Today's CinC machining is not 'your dad's CinC'.

The real issue around scanning film is the whole infrastructure that is also required. As usual, its not the article itself that is the challenge, its how to keep it serviced, and all the prep surrounding getting a lab roll of film ready to mount. Splicers? Where do you get those now? A garage sale down at your local cinema?

But as pointed out, maybe the real prize in the crackerjack box is the image processing patents and licenses.

jPo

"I always pass on free advice -- its never of any use to me" Oscar Wilde.


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