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Colin McFadden
Please stop trolling the forum
on Jun 22, 2011 at 6:25:43 pm

If you've already burned your copies of FCP and moved to Premiere or Avid or Video Toaster, there's not much value for you to add to this forum. Responding to every thread in which someone is asking a legit FCPX question with "FCPX Sucks it's not for pros!!!" is unhelpful.



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Tomislav Rupic
Re: Please stop trolling the forum
on Jun 22, 2011 at 6:43:24 pm

I just wonder how many of those trolls actually work for those other companies that
they are suggesting...

and really, I know its missing some stuff but if you cannot adopt just stay with your
FCP7 and work on FCPX when you can, i bet there will be improvements in near
future, its just first version.

avid and adobe salesmen please go away, we don't want your products...

thanks and sorry for bad english....


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Chris Conlee
Re: Please stop trolling the forum
on Jun 22, 2011 at 6:51:28 pm

No Avid or Adobe salesperson here, although I own and use both (as well as FCS 3). They each have their respective strengths and weaknesses. While I agree it's not useful to continually slam FCP X as worthless, there is some value in pointing out the strengths (and weaknesses) of competing systems, because it's entirely truthful that FCP X will not meet the needs of a certain group of editors and it's in their best interest to know where to turn.

I suspect in a week or two the forum will have shaken out. The lay of the land will have been established, and the people for whom FCP X is not an option will be diligently working on finding another solution instead of piping off here.

Chris


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Peter Blumenstock
Re: Please stop trolling the forum
on Jun 22, 2011 at 6:51:36 pm

Wrong. I want their products. Very badly, actually. Because since yesterday they are the only viable option to get work done. So I am more than happy to hear suggestions and comments about other software. Cause tons and tons of people here will switch - some sooner and the still-in-Apple-believers a little later.


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Russell Lasson
Re: Please stop trolling the forum
on Jun 22, 2011 at 6:55:33 pm

Colin,

We'd better just let them complain for a while. What has happened with the release of FCPX isn't like a standard upgrade. It's not like the trolls that we've had in the past with other FCP upgrades complaining about the loss of LiveType. This is really a major deal. I'm not condoning trolls, but there are a lot of pro users who are very concerned with the future of this software. So I say:

SPEAK UP! IF YOU HATE IT, SAY IT! LET APPLE KNOW THAT YOU'RE MAD! JOIN THE REVOLUTION! (but please be civil while doing it :)

FCP7 is outdated with processing power, but right now it feels like FCPX might take years to get back to what FCP7 could do workflow wise.

Russ

Russell Lasson
Colorist/Digital Cinema Specialist
Color Mill
Salt Lake City, UT
http://www.colormill.net


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Matt Callac
Re: Please stop trolling the forum
on Jun 22, 2011 at 7:00:04 pm

[Russell Lasson] "Colin,

We'd better just let them complain for a while. What has happened with the release of FCPX isn't like a standard upgrade. It's not like the trolls that we've had in the past with other FCP upgrades complaining about the loss of LiveType. This is really a major deal. I'm not condoning trolls, but there are a lot of pro users who are very concerned with the future of this software. So I say:

SPEAK UP! IF YOU HATE IT, SAY IT! LET APPLE KNOW THAT YOU'RE MAD! JOIN THE REVOLUTION! (but please be civil while doing it :)

FCP7 is outdated with processing power, but right now it feels like FCPX might take years to get back to what FCP7 could do workflow wise."


He's not saying, Don't complain... He's just saying Don't troll threads. Several people are asking legitimate questions, or looking for solutions to problems and those threads are getting Trolled. That doesn't help anyone. If you feel the need to bitch, Start a thread and bitch, or join another bitching thread. Don't troll legitimate threads. Also Apple doesn't read this message board...if you want to get their attention do it through the normal apple feedbak channels.

-mattyc


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Russell Lasson
Re: Please stop trolling the forum
on Jun 22, 2011 at 7:19:30 pm

[Matt Callac] ".if you want to get their attention do it through the normal apple feedbak channels."

Did that after 30 minutes of opening FCPX.

[Matt Callac] "Also Apple doesn't read this message board..."

I bet someone at Apple is looking at this forum with this release.

Trolls are always dumb, but with the release of FCPX, there are plenty of upset die-hard FCP7 users that could be accused of trolls. I just think that this is such a big deal that people should be allowed to complain.

Russ

Russell Lasson
Colorist/Digital Cinema Specialist
Color Mill
Salt Lake City, UT
http://www.colormill.net


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Simon Ubsdell
Re: Please stop trolling the forum
on Jun 22, 2011 at 7:21:23 pm

[Matt Callac] "Start a thread and bitch, or join another bitching thread. Don't troll legitimate threads."

Absolutely, Matt - but look how few non-bitching threads there are and if they do exist how quickly they disappear down the pile!

New forum now, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't help thinking that there are reasonably intelligent answers to some at least of the panic questions ...

;-)

Simon Ubsdell
Director/Editor/Writer
http://www.tokyo-uk.com


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Matt Callac
Re: Please stop trolling the forum
on Jun 22, 2011 at 7:29:33 pm

[Simon Ubsdell] "New forum now, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!"

matthew Celia set up a temporary messageboard on his personal site. you can email me and i'll send you a link if you like.

mattaithiew@hotmail.com

He posted a link earlier, but his comment was deleted.

-mattyc


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