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Lance Bachelder
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:10:05 pm

I miss Steve Jobs live broadcasts - no like streaming shorthand.

Lance Bachelder
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Jeremy Garchow
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:27:16 pm

Along wiht Air and 13/15" MBP updates, there's

Next Gen MBP.

Tossing out the "legacy".


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Lance Bachelder
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:31:34 pm

hey FCPX screenshot!

Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
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Viktor Kamenický
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:31:48 pm

Final cut pro update?

"You never want to get to get a call from the editing room"
Art Adams


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:32:02 pm

FCPX updated for retina. Top quarter of the screen = 1080p res.


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:34:08 pm

Kepler Graphics.


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:37:22 pm

768GB of FLASH storage.

i7 Quad core up to 2.7

Up to 16GB RAM

SD Card, HDMI out, Thunderbolt, USB3.

Showing pics of Blackmagic camera and Promise Raid.

Magsafe2 (thinner connection).


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:38:22 pm

fw800 and Gb Ethernet Adapters.


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Andrew Richards
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:39:38 pm

Twin Thunderbolt and HDMI out.

Best,
Andy


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:42:24 pm

"FCPX can manage nine streams of video"


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Lance Bachelder
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:43:21 pm

they must be serious about FCPX?

Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
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Michael Garber
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:43:01 pm

"9 streams of video" on new macbook pro.

Michael Garber
5th Wall - a post production company


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Lance Bachelder
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:43:39 pm

I want one!

Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
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Jeremy Garchow
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:44:08 pm

Pff. Ships today.


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Lance Bachelder
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:47:16 pm

ships end of July for me :)

Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
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Steve Connor
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:44:16 pm

Very, very nice, but where's the new MacPro!

Steve Connor
"The ripple command is just a workaround for not having a magnetic timelinel"
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Andrew Richards
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:45:06 pm

Also the 17" is conspicuously absent, as feared.

Best,
Andy


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Steve Connor
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:45:38 pm

Now moved on to OSX!!!

Steve Connor
"The ripple command is just a workaround for not having a magnetic timelinel"
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Michael Garber
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:45:42 pm

...and one more thing? ... hoping?

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Lance Bachelder
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:48:14 pm

Who needs 17" when you have a retina display?

Lance Bachelder
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Steve Connor
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:49:28 pm

[Lance Bachelder] "Who needs 17" when you have a retina display?
"


Good point!

Steve Connor
"The ripple command is just a workaround for not having a magnetic timelinel"
Adrenalin Television


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Walter Soyka
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 6:11:11 pm

[Lance Bachelder] "Who needs 17" when you have a retina display?"

I would have liked one. With retina display, we have to think about pixel resolution and spatial resolution separately. Retina display UI elements (so far) are the same physical size as their non-retina counterparts so that they are still legible and easily manipulated (though of course they have higher pixel counts). Retina displays are about sharper display, not more expansive display.

Practically speaking, the physical size of the video window in FCPX may be the same, but now it's 1080p @ 100% instead of 540p. The type in the UI elements are noticeably sharper, but likely still takes about the same proportion of total screen space. Sharper, not larger.

At 2880x1800, the 15" Next Generation MBP (MBP:TNG?) has about 25% more pixels than my 30" monitor has in about a quarter of the physical area. Yowza.

That's a nice-looking notebook.

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Jeremy Garchow
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 6:19:03 pm

I would also like 17"

But that would mean a 4k display, and perhaps out of reach for mobile graphics cards? I don't know.


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Viktor Kamenický
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:48:44 pm

One more thing would be an iMac? :(

"You never want to get to get a call from the editing room"
Art Adams


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Andrew Richards
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:49:26 pm

Not in the keynote doesn't mean not in the store... But not a good sign.

Best,
Andy


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Tim Wilson
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:50:23 pm

[Lance Bachelder] "they must be serious about FCPX?"

10 million FCPX downloads x $295 = nearly $3 billion dollars in the first year, around what they made in the first TWELVE years of Legacy. And I'm being conservative. Yeah, I think they're serious.

And probably my last chance to say it before the other shoe drops: I've never wavered in saying that a new Mac Pro is coming. Even if he doesn't announce it in the next few minutes. LOL

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Lance Bachelder
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:55:31 pm

Really that many sold? Did they announce that today?

Lance Bachelder
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Tim Wilson
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 6:07:21 pm

No announcements, but I read a very reasonable conversation between some developers who've actually done it, about how many sales it takes to stay on top of the paid apps bestseller list. I made a back-of-the-envelope guess from there.

But it also fits with my general theory that Apple thought of FCP7 as -- if not a failure, a profound disappointment. Apple isn't in business to sell 2 million of anything over 12 years. That's not a sustainable business in Apple-land.

Frankly, I doubt that it's as little as 10 million, but I doubt we'll ever know for sure. It's certainly closer to the kinds of number Apple looks for from software -- but even there, still short of Apple-like numbers for anything. They swing big and broad.

Related, I was going to say that this looks EXACTLY what a MacWorld keynote used to look like...but that makes sense, because (no insult intended) most Mac developers are developing for general audiences.

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Steve Connor
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 6:08:46 pm

Mountain Lion $19.99 next month

Steve Connor
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Scott Sheriff
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 8:08:40 pm

[Tim Wilson] "Apple isn't in business to sell 2 million of anything over 12 years."

2 million at between $1,300 and $999 is still a chunk of change. Plus how much in hardware sales did this generate. The 800# gorilla in the room is what would have been the total (in dollars) that would have been generated by keeping FCS alive and releasing X.
Lets not forget goodwill sales of non-editing software and devices by happy users.
How much has apple gotten from me since the roll-out of X? $0.00
I wonder how many potential new apple users were dissuaded from jumping on the apple bandwagon by the bad PR of the X roll out.

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Franz Bieberkopf
Re: The Storm
on Jun 12, 2012 at 12:42:56 am

[Tim Wilson] "10 million FCPX downloads"

Ha!

[Tim Wilson] "I read a very reasonable conversation between some developers who've actually done it, about how many sales it takes to stay on top of the paid apps bestseller list."

It helps immensely if you own the list and make the vaguest claims about what it represents.

Franz.


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juan prado
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 6:02:05 pm

Ten million?


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Dustin Parsons
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:50:50 pm

Steve Connor"Very, very nice, but where's the new MacPro!"

Right? I've never owned or cut off a laptop so while the new MacBook Pro definitely looks hot, I'm much more interested in a new MacPro.


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:56:46 pm

Dictation sounds interesting.

Someone please just give me some 2way transcribing goodness


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Rick Lang
Re: The Storm
on Jun 12, 2012 at 1:18:08 am

Jeremy, I know the presentation mentioned Thunderbolt to Firewire adapters, but when I search the Apple Store, I can't find them. Need one if I'm going to connect to my Firewire Canon video camera.

Rick Lang

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Jeremy Garchow
Re: The Storm
on Jun 12, 2012 at 2:18:35 am

[Rick Lang] "Jeremy, I know the presentation mentioned Thunderbolt to Firewire adapters, but when I search the Apple Store, I can't find them. Need one if I'm going to connect to my Firewire Canon video camera."

I haven't looked, but they were mentioned in the keynote blog I was following.


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Chris Harlan
Re: The Storm
on Jun 12, 2012 at 2:49:31 am

[Rick Lang] "Jeremy, I know the presentation mentioned Thunderbolt to Firewire adapters, but when I search the Apple Store, I can't find them. Need one if I'm going to connect to my Firewire Canon video camera.
"


I'm pretty sure they don't exist yet. The Ethernet port does, at least.


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: The Storm
on Jun 12, 2012 at 5:33:42 am

[Rick Lang] "Jeremy, I know the presentation mentioned Thunderbolt to Firewire adapters, but when I search the Apple Store, I can't find them. Need one if I'm going to connect to my Firewire Canon video camera"

Looks like it's available in July. I just read it in fine print on retina MBP tech specs.

Jeremy


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Rick Lang
Re: The Storm
on Jun 12, 2012 at 12:58:14 pm

Jeremy:
"Looks like it's available in July.  I just read it in fine print on retina MBP tech specs."

Thanks for finding the Thunderbolt to Firewire adapter!

Rick Lang

iMac 27” 2.8GHz i7 16GB


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Tim Wilson
Re: The Storm
on Jun 12, 2012 at 3:22:29 pm

[Rick Lang] "Jeremy:
"Looks like it's available in July.  I just read it in fine print on retina MBP tech specs."

Thanks for finding the Thunderbolt to Firewire adapter!"


The Thunderbolt/GigE adapter is already in the Apple store for $29.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD463ZM/A

Also note that Sonnet has a monster of a little box that offers SxS, Compact Flash, SDXC, eSATA, and FW800 via Tbolt. Bus-powered no less. Doesn't solve every problem, but solves a few...
http://www.sonnettech.com/product/echoexpresscard34thunderbolt.html

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Helmut Kobler
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 6:05:27 pm

We're more than an hour into the keynote, and haven't even gotten to iOS 6 yet.

Hopefully this will be an unusually long keynote with room for iOS 6 and then Mac Pros by the end. ;-)

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Andrew Richards
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 6:08:57 pm

[Helmut Kobler] "Hopefully this will be an unusually long keynote with room for iOS 6 and then Mac Pros by the end. ;-)"

Methinks we got all the hardware stage time we are going to get...

Best,
Andy


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Bobby Mosca
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 6:20:48 pm

Getting cloudy over this parade. Considering the leaked specs on the new Mac Pros turned out to be bogus, it don't look like we'll hear anything today. It could make a nice one more thing, but I doubt it.

FCPXs sales numbers are bad news for some on this forum, if you ask me.


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Steve Connor
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 6:21:51 pm

[Bobby Mosca] "FCPXs sales numbers are bad news for some on this forum, if you ask me."

Why and who?

Steve Connor
"The ripple command is just a workaround for not having a magnetic timelinel"
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Tim Wilson
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 6:25:58 pm

[Bobby Mosca] "FCPXs sales numbers are bad news for some on this forum, if you ask me."

My one and only point is that this idea that Apple killed a successful product is nonsense. They've NOW built something that might be successful enough someday, in ways that Legacy could never possibly have been. But this is the first Apple video product for pros that's in it for the long haul.

I mean, are you looking at these numbers today? Hundreds of millions of this, billions of that, whatever. These are numbers almost beyond comprehension. At $295, they're clearly not expecting iWorks numbers, but seriously, you have to way, way scale up your expectations of Apple's expectations.

Not that it might be good news for any particular person in this forum.

Tim Wilson
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Tim Wilson
The Yawn
on Jun 11, 2012 at 6:40:25 pm

Not that I think it's not cool to buy a new car for Siri integration. I think it's awesome. I can't wait. I'm going with Jaguar. Since I can't have a car that's actually named after Apple, I'm going for the one named after a cat, just like the Mac OS!

But seriously man, over 100 minutes in, and I'm having a hard time keeping my eyes open. I mean, it's been like an hour since they dropped Scarlett Johansson's name. Does your church service even run this long?Somebody wake me when they announce the Mac Pro.

Even if it's September. LOL

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Jeremy Garchow
Re: The Yawn
on Jun 11, 2012 at 6:43:20 pm

I'll take turn by turn navigation.


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Shane Ross
Re: The Yawn
on Jun 11, 2012 at 6:44:28 pm

Will the new thin MBP run FCP 6? Avid MC 3.5? Anyone have experience with this?

#hahahahaha

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Jeremy Garchow
Re: The Yawn
on Jun 11, 2012 at 6:56:14 pm

No new MacPro announced.


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Michael Garber
Re: The Yawn
on Jun 11, 2012 at 6:57:44 pm

Waiting until the end of the week to see if they make any more announcements. Then it's officially hackintosh time.

Michael Garber
5th Wall - a post production company


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Clint Wardlow
Re: The Yawn
on Jun 11, 2012 at 6:56:34 pm

Did I miss it? Was there no mention of Mac Pro?


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Clint Wardlow
Re: The Yawn
on Jun 11, 2012 at 6:57:38 pm

Just saw your post Jeremy...so no Mac Pro announcement.


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Chris Simpson
Re: The Yawn
on Jun 11, 2012 at 6:59:24 pm

Yes, me too, did I miss anything, anything at all, even vaguely or obliquely, remotely about Mac Pro? Would the opening keynote include this normally, even if they are only interested in consumer toys?


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Walter Soyka
Re: The Yawn
on Jun 11, 2012 at 7:04:36 pm

[Chris Simpson] "Yes, me too, did I miss anything, anything at all, even vaguely or obliquely, remotely about Mac Pro? Would the opening keynote include this normally, even if they are only interested in consumer toys?"

WWDC is Apple's developer conference, so it's not fundamentally about consumer toys (though you may argue it's about building things for consumer toys).

I'd have expected the Mac Pro announcement in the hardware section where they reviewed the updated and next-generation laptops. The store is still down, so I guess anything is possible, but I would have thought an updated workstation would have deserved a mention here. The WWDC keynote has featured Mac Pros in the past.

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Jeremy Garchow
Re: The Yawn
on Jun 11, 2012 at 7:07:44 pm

The Apple store is still down, but if you click on "Mac", they have the new MBPs featured, but same ole MacPro page.

Jeremy


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Chris Harlan
Re: The Yawn
on Jun 11, 2012 at 7:18:21 pm

[Jeremy Garchow] "The Apple store is still down, but if you click on "Mac", they have the new MBPs featured, but same ole MacPro page.
"


You'll also notice that they reference the changes to the "rest of the MBP line" which they detail as the 13 and 15 inch.


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Kevin Monahan
Re: The Yawn
on Jun 11, 2012 at 6:58:46 pm

NVIDIA MBP has an NVIDIA GPU with 1GB VRAM. w00t!

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Andrew Richards
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 6:57:38 pm



Best,
Andy


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Matthew Sonnenfeld
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 7:01:16 pm

Haha love it Andy!

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Jeremy Garchow
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 7:03:37 pm

There goes the neighborhood


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 7:26:16 pm

Apple Store is back, it has a "new" badge over the MacPro, but nothing has changed spec wise.

Odd. They are seriously just f*cking with us at this point.

Proof:



proof.png

Jeremy


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Herb Sevush
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 7:41:11 pm

[Jeremy Garchow] "Odd. They are seriously just f*cking with us at this point."

So maybe the HP guy I talked about last week did in fact know something when he said he expected a lot more business after 6/11.

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Chris Harlan
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 7:41:57 pm

[Herb Sevush] "So maybe the HP guy I talked about last week did in fact know something when he said he expected a lot more business after 6/11."

Seems like it.


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 7:42:28 pm

[Herb Sevush] "So maybe the HP guy I talked about last week did in fact know something when he said he expected a lot more business after 6/11."

I told you he believed in the product, and was having fun with it.


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Steve Connor
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 7:45:23 pm

[Herb Sevush] "So maybe the HP guy I talked about last week did in fact know something when he said he expected a lot more business after 6/11."


Certainly did, got his number? :)

Steve Connor
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David C Jones
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 7:32:47 pm

It seems to me, Apple is saying you can (or soon will be able to) do it all on a Mac Book Pro. Gone will be the days you need a desk top computer with a big tower and lots of drives and storage space; everything is getting smaller and faster. And, cloud technology is the future. Who knows...maybe they're right.

Dave J


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Phil Hoppes
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 7:31:17 pm

Well, it's out. ......... and all I believe they added is a 3.2Ghz Quad Core server.

Seriously...... you must be kidding. Same box. Same everything I believe. Someone closer to this please fill me in but I believe ALL they did was add a server configuration.

If you put your horse in front of this cart, you deserve what you get.


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 7:46:15 pm

[Phil Hoppes] "If you put your horse in front of this cart, you deserve what you get."

Whoa, pardner.

It's still not dead.

I hate to keep asking, but why haven't they killed it?

Why not just kill it? Run me over? Stick a fork in me?

Buy a Nissan?


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Steve Connor
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 7:47:18 pm

[Jeremy Garchow] "Why not just kill it? Run me over? Stick a fork in me?
"


Because some people must be buying it, not sure who though.

Steve Connor
"The ripple command is just a workaround for not having a magnetic timelinel"
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Herb Sevush
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 7:50:31 pm

[Steve Connor] "Because some people must be buying it, not sure who though."

Me. I have to buy that f'n 2 year old overpriced POS because I'm still tied to Legacy for another year. I'm gonna get drunk tonite and plop my money down tomorrow.

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Matthew Sonnenfeld
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 8:05:58 pm

Just got off the phone with Apple. Spoke to a Mac Pro sales rep and got the scoop...

The processors are updated to the current Intel Xeon processors but the website has not reflected the change yet. If you check the numbers stated, the Intel Xeon E5645, it is still the one from Q1 2010. Also, they changed the RAM configuration. You now get more RAM standard.

These are the ONLY changes and they do not know if anything else will be changed at any time but these are definitely the only changes for today. There will NOT be Thunderbolt, USB 3, updated graphics, or any sort of case redesigns on this "refresh."

They recommended checking back at the Apple website about every half hour to see if they update the Mac Pro pages with what will be the new spec.

Additionally, if you look close at the benchmarks, they do reflect May 2012 tests on pre production models.

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Chris Harlan
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 8:10:12 pm

[Matthew Sonnenfeld] "Just got off the phone with Apple. Spoke to a Mac Pro sales rep and got the scoop...

The processors are updated to the current Intel Xeon processors but the website has not reflected the change yet."



That's interesting to hear, but they have gone in and stripped out all references to the old chips, but have not replaced them with the new. Plus, there is a new upgrade comparison tool that specifically lists the old chips. It'll be interesting to see which is true.


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Walter Soyka
Re: The Storm
on Jun 12, 2012 at 1:59:28 pm

[Herb Sevush] "Me. I have to buy that f'n 2 year old overpriced POS because I'm still tied to Legacy for another year. I'm gonna get drunk tonite and plop my money down tomorrow."

Herb, may I suggest you buy one second-hand? You can avoid feeling bad about giving money to Apple for something you don't really want, and you can feel good helping someone else on their path to a PC workstation.

I imagine you might even find some with a year or two of AppleCare left.

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Herb Sevush
Re: The Storm
on Jun 12, 2012 at 8:30:47 pm

[Walter Soyka] "may I suggest you buy one second-hand?"

I've been looking. I'd rather not give my money to Apple but I don't want to shoot myself in the foot either. Most of the used boxes I've seen listed are overpriced and overused from big supplier's. Individual editor's are often looking to sell complete systems, including monitor's and I/O cards that I don't need. If anyone out there has a 2010 box they're looking to sell, then I'm interested.

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Frank Gothmann
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 7:55:12 pm

[Steve Connor] "
Because some people must be buying it, not sure who though."


Because, as the past days clearly showed, there are quite a few people who just want a Mac tower. So a lot will bite the bullet and buy the old fart rather than going PC. They are also very likely to have a modern Macbook, which will fly compared to the old tower design. So they'll slowly but surely agree that towers are not necessary anymore, all can be done one a Laptop and often even faster, and after a while they'll happily move on while having never known the performance of a modern tower system compared to a laptop. Clever move, Apple.

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Phil Hoppes
Re: The Storm
on Jun 11, 2012 at 8:02:16 pm

It's dead. They are going to let the market justify what they want to do already. From these actions the best you can assume is they have some larger clients who have begged them to keep making them for just a little bit longer so they are going to go from 20k - 30k units/yr to 5k -10k by years end no doubt.

If you really really need one or want one, get it now because you won't see it on the web page a year from now if it even takes that long.


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