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Steve Connor
FCPX to ProTools
on Feb 1, 2012 at 1:21:30 pm

http://www.x2pro.net/

X opens up a bit more!

Steve Connor
"FCPX Agitator"
Adrenalin Television


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: FCPX to ProTools
on Feb 1, 2012 at 2:12:20 pm

Roles to tracks via AAF. Sweet.


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Steve Connor
Re: FCPX to ProTools
on Feb 1, 2012 at 2:36:15 pm

[Jeremy Garchow] "Roles to tracks via AAF. Sweet."

I know, the walls are tumbling down

Steve Connor
"FCPX Agitator"
Adrenalin Television


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Greg Jones
Re: FCPX to ProTools
on Feb 1, 2012 at 4:29:29 pm

I wonder if they'll come out with a FCPX to OMF solution. We export our projects out to OMF from FCP7 so our audio guy can mix them in sonar. I don't believe sonar can read AAF.

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peter dunphy
Re: FCPX to ProTools
on Feb 1, 2012 at 7:03:36 pm

[Jeremy Garchow] "Roles to tracks via AAF. Sweet."

I haven't used ProTools or FCPX before, but my question is, would going from FCPX to ProTools and back again be similar to 'old' FCP to Soundtrack Pro and back again? As simple as that?

Peter Dunphy

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Lance Bachelder
Re: FCPX to ProTools
on Feb 1, 2012 at 7:25:58 pm

Probably not full round-tripping. Typically once a show is handed of to audio you'll get finished stems (dialog, fx & music) ready to cut back into finished show for delivery etc.

If it's a true AAF that should mean it could go into any AAF friendly app like Nuendo, Avid, Vegas Pro, PPro?

Hey what's with all these pro features and FCPX anyway?

Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Irvine, California



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Michael Gissing
Re: FCPX to ProTools
on Feb 1, 2012 at 11:06:54 pm

>>[Jeremy Garchow] "Roles to tracks via AAF. Sweet."

I know, the walls are tumbling down

Pity Apple built walls around the app in the first place.

So now I can go FCPX>XML>AAF>AutomaticDuck>OMF. Sweet. Hope the media gets consolidated with handles somewhere down the line.


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Michael Gissing
Re: FCPX to ProTools
on Feb 1, 2012 at 11:13:27 pm

I asked in another thread whether the original FCPX>AutomaticDuck>OMF was still working with this update? Anyone able to test that?

I am getting closer to the day when I can tell editors that they can bring me a FCPX project for grade and sound post so long as they do the XML and OMF exports first.


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: FCPX to ProTools
on Feb 1, 2012 at 11:19:16 pm

I hear it's broke. It never was super reliable for me in the first place.

We will have to wait for new tools.


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Michael Gissing
Re: FCPX to ProTools
on Feb 1, 2012 at 11:27:21 pm

Thanks Jeremy. So still waiting for OMF and AAF. This new software isn't available until the end of February according to their website.

I will be very curious to see how they can assign roles which basically bus like material to individual tracks. A common thing for me in docos is to have layered dialog tracks. If roles just says dialog then how will it split that stem into lots of individual tracks so that clips don't overwrite?


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: FCPX to ProTools
on Feb 1, 2012 at 11:31:47 pm

[Michael Gissing] "If roles just says dialog then how will it split that stem into lots of individual tracks so that clips don't overwrite?"

Multiple tracks, I would think. A Role does not mean one track, or even a separate container such as a nest.

I think it would arrange the tracks by Role, then by layer in each role, then the next Role and next set of layers just like a track based timeline.


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Michael Gissing
Re: FCPX to ProTools
on Feb 1, 2012 at 11:34:26 pm

Yes I presumed it would have to do a bit of a magnetic timeline thing itself and create extra tracks if two roles overlap or collide in any way. If so then the track arrangement would be random rather like the way many editors treat track assignment now.


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: FCPX to ProTools
on Feb 1, 2012 at 11:49:18 pm

[Michael Gissing] "If so then the track arrangement would be random rather like the way many editors treat track assignment now."

:)

I think it will be less random.

It will be Assigned Role > the number of tracks it needs to be without any clip overlap on same track (so, say tracks 1-4)

Then Role > the number of tracks it needs to be without any clip overlap on same track (5-12)

etc

The roles will certainly overlap, but that doesn't mean much. It's more about the clips themselves.

It should work just like tracks if you keep everything on separate tracks like a good person should. I would imagine it would make the organization easier as you receive it as the role will have the tracks fairly organized already, but I don't know anything, just making logic guesses.


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Michael Gissing
Re: FCPX to ProTools
on Feb 1, 2012 at 11:56:53 pm

Well only another month to see how they will do it.


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: FCPX to ProTools
on Feb 2, 2012 at 12:01:52 am

[Michael Gissing] "Well only another month to see how they will do it."

I do hope they will add OMF as well.


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Lemur Hayop
Re: FCPX to ProTools
on Feb 3, 2012 at 9:36:49 am

Automatic Duck is apparently DOA with FCP 10.0.3. It was OK for the few months that it worked. 'Just gotta wait for X2Pro.


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Michael Gissing
Re: FCPX to ProTools
on Feb 3, 2012 at 11:57:56 pm

It just occurred to me that rather than wait for this software, perhaps Xto7 could be used to move the audio into FCP7 which then makes an OMF. If anyone has this software and can test if that works I would appreciate it. All that is needed is audio plus handles. No video.


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Jeremy Garchow
Re: FCPX to ProTools
on Feb 4, 2012 at 12:01:15 am

[Michael Gissing] "perhaps Xto7 could be used to move the audio into FCP7 which then makes an OMF"

Yeah, that's one of the great benefits of Xto7 is you get all the interchange back.

Jeremy


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Simon Ubsdell
Re: FCPX to ProTools
on Feb 8, 2012 at 7:40:49 pm

[Michael Gissing] "It just occurred to me that rather than wait for this software, perhaps Xto7 could be used to move the audio into FCP7 which then makes an OMF. If anyone has this software and can test if that works I would appreciate it. All that is needed is audio plus handles."

Hi Michael

Acting on this supposition I tried this route to get my audio out of FCPX. I only got as far as FCP 7 before it all went pear-shaped.

See here for a list of major (and currently fatal) hazards that I encountered:

http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/344/7938

Not a route I would recommend at this point in time, though IA are looking into these issues for me.

Simon Ubsdell
Director/Editor/Writer
http://www.tokyo-uk.com


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Chris Harlan
Re: FCPX to ProTools
on Feb 1, 2012 at 4:49:21 pm

[Steve Connor] "http://www.x2pro.net/

X opens up a bit more!
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Cool.


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