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gary adcock
FCPX info from an insider
on Jun 21, 2011 at 1:56:54 pm

FirstLook here. http://www.macworld.com/article/160618/2011/06/fcpx.html

Note that all of my indepth stuff will be here on the Cow, Tim and I have been working on a 3 Part piece on what is going on under the hood with this release.

FCP X is NOT for Professionals
No Log and Capture, No 3rdParty Plugins, codecs or Hardware today.

No EDL or XML support -in or out at this time.

It will run alongside FCS3 without issue
It requires a 64bit capable OS on your computer.

gary adcock
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Erik Lindahl
Re: FCPX info from an insider
on Jun 21, 2011 at 2:00:05 pm

- FCP X is NOT for Professionals
- No Log and Capture, No 3rdParty Plugins, codecs or Hardware today.
- No EDL or XML support -in or out at this time.


Wow… That some massive lack of pro features…

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Erik Lindahl
Re: FCPX info from an insider
on Jun 21, 2011 at 2:02:41 pm

I'll reply my self here as the question I have is "how is Apple thinking regarding this?". I mean.. do they want to scare off the current high-end pros using FCP? If they plan on supporting us they should give us a hint of what the future really will bring for FCPX.

I think the idéa of having editing / grading / sound-suiting as they have done it is the way to go for sure. But we can't live with out video i/o and an app that can communicate with other post applications.

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Tim Wilson
Re: FCPX info from an insider
on Jun 21, 2011 at 2:00:47 pm

Just to tantalize you all while we get it ready to post, here's the intro to Gary's article:

FCP X: READY OR NOT, IT’S HERE

I’ll be honest. When I first opened FCP X, my first title for this article was, “What the @#%, Ap-ple?!”

Let’s get the hard part out of the way first. FCP X is NOT an upgrade to Final Cut Pro 7. This is a whole new app, literally built from the ground up. Here’s one thing that this means: upgrades traditionally allow you to open previous projects. That is not allowed here, so let’s just call this a whole new app.

This release is not for the professional editor, not yet. Apple knows this – BOY, does Ap-ple know, and they understand that if they want to make this useful for pro editors they have a short window to deliver some of what’s missing.

The main issues for most pro editors now: no support for any tape based capture, no third-party hardware support, and no third-party codec support. That means that you cannot send or receive an EDL or XML file for online editing or finishing.

Apple has been very specific, that this is not the final state of FCP X. Features are ex-pected to be added quickly, via the App Store, with some of them waiting to show up natively in OS X Lion and with support for Thunderbolt.

Once we get past the knee-jerk reactions (like mine was), the fact is there’s a lot to like about FCP X right now. The GUI has naturally received the most attention so far, but I’d like to show you some of what’s going on underneath the hood.

Some of it has to do with 64-bit speed that you’re not going to believe, but I’m going to start with our old friend, FCP media management. Even more important, is the information about your media, called metadata. The changes that Apple has made will change the future of non-linear editing for film, video and digital cinema professionals, with power that high-end pros have only been dreaming of.

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Okay, let the questions begin!

:-)

Tim Wilson
Creative COW


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Stephen Bakopanos
Re: FCPX info from an insider
on Jun 21, 2011 at 2:11:28 pm

[Tim Wilson] "Apple has been very specific, that this is not the final state of FCP X. Features are ex-pected to be added quickly, via the App Store, with some of them waiting to show up natively in OS X Lion and with support for Thunderbolt. "

Apple can't leave us in the dark about what they will and won't bring to the table or else the bulk of pros will jump ship to Avid or Adobe. They HAVE to keep us informed. I'm not going to wait for an unknown period of time for an unknown set of features. That's just madness.


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gary adcock
Re: FCPX info from an insider
on Jun 21, 2011 at 3:55:44 pm

[Stephen Bakopanos] "They HAVE to keep us informed. I'm not going to wait for an unknown period of time for an unknown set of features. That's just madness."

That would not be Apple.

The reality is there will be users that jump ship, a couple of large broadcasters have started testing other NLEs.

I am going to say that I had the same reaction at first.

gary adcock
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Andrew Karczewski
Re: FCPX info from an insider
on Jun 21, 2011 at 2:01:30 pm

[gary adcock] "FCP X is NOT for Professionals "

If anyone else said that i would think they were just an obsessive fanboy/fangirl of Adobe or Avid etc

However, I believe you, Gary. Can't wait to read the three part article.


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Erik Lindahl
Re: FCPX info from an insider
on Jun 21, 2011 at 2:05:59 pm

To add to this, it seems like Compressor 4 is somewhat a "bastard child" that lives on. It's not been re-skinned with the factor of "X" so to speak. A bit odd I'd say but I guess they had to get these apps out of walls of Cupertino...

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gary adcock
Re: FCPX info from an insider
on Jun 21, 2011 at 2:13:01 pm

[Andrew Karczewski] "If anyone else said that i would think they were just an obsessive fanboy/fangirl of Adobe or Avid "

Thanks man...

Apple is keenly aware that this is not professionally enabled, rest asured that this was such a huge undertaking with the upcoming changes in Lion ( QT gone- AV foundation in) that this was needed.

The Supporting product will be comming, I have just been told that Automatic Duck will have an XML tool soon for handling some of this data

gary adcock
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gary adcock
Re: FCPX info from an insider- Automatic Duck FCP X Support
on Jun 21, 2011 at 2:13:50 pm

http://automaticduck.com/products/pefcp/

gary adcock
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Keith Mahoney
Re: FCPX info from an insider- Automatic Duck FCP X Support
on Jun 21, 2011 at 2:26:10 pm

Here's what I'm still confused on, can you separate the audio tracks so 1 & 2 are dialogue, 3 & 4 Narration, 5 & 6 Music and 7 & 8 Effects? If you can't do this then what's the point in exporting anyway, you're going to be spending a lot of money and time re-organizing your tracks in Pro Tools, Soundtrack Pro or Logic. And how do you send someone a finished file, since there's no output to tape, with separated audio tracks, such as 1 & 2 Full ST mix, 3 & 4 ST M & E, 5.1, etc..? This is what networks require, as well as film projects.

Have a Great Day,
Keith


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Hector berrebi
Re: FCPX info from an insider- Automatic Duck FCP X Support
on Jun 21, 2011 at 2:33:36 pm

we should probably just be patient, this is all very "version 1"

at least it works in parallel with FCP7

so by the time FCPX.xx5 comes out and fixes stuff, we will all be quite familiar with it.

still... with all the tapeless vibe this app has, and the 4K support, one would expect it to work natively with R3D files...

Hector Berrebi
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Erik Lindahl
Re: FCPX info from an insider- Automatic Duck FCP X Support
on Jun 21, 2011 at 2:31:16 pm

"Everything just changed in post" is sort of an ironic line Apple is using as this app will be a pain or impossible to actually use in a post workflow if all the limitations mentioned here are in the app.

Everything just changed yes - we can't use the latest version of Final Cut Pro.. ;-)

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Bret Williams
Re: FCPX info from an insider- Automatic Duck FCP X Support
on Jun 21, 2011 at 2:36:40 pm

Bottom line folks, they demoed everything there is to see and know about FCP X at the sneak peek. That was it. And truthfully, from all the recent leaks, that's all that I thought was coming. Why would people post screenshots of of basically the same thing we saw at the demo? Cuz there wasn't anything else to show.


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jon smitherton
Re: FCPX info from an insider- Automatic Duck FCP X Support
on Jun 21, 2011 at 2:55:25 pm

[gary adcock] " http://automaticduck.com/products/pefcp/"

They're not expecting us to shell out 495 bucks just to get OMF export are they Gary? ...Gary?!?



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Joe Murray
Re: FCPX info from an insider- Automatic Duck FCP X Support
on Jun 21, 2011 at 3:07:08 pm

My guess is Boris will have something out a lot cheaper than AD before long. Economics being what they are, if there's a need and only one super-expensive product to meet that need, others will jump in to compete for that business.

Joe Murray
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gary adcock
Re: FCPX info from an insider- Automatic Duck FCP X Support
on Jun 21, 2011 at 3:52:57 pm

[jon smitherton] "They're not expecting us to shell out 495 bucks just to get OMF export are they Gary?"

I cannot answer that, Professional output options have always cost more money, be it in software or hardware, all of that will come in the future.

This is the 1.0 version of this app and frankly there is so much in here I have been writing my ass off for more than a week just to compile some of the info.

gary adcock
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Terry Mikkelsen
Re: FCPX info from an insider
on Jun 21, 2011 at 3:32:55 pm

Just read your article on MacWorld and was thinking I know that Gary guy. So I cruise over to the Cow and sure enough, one and the same.

I'm mostly shocked that this version cannot open FCP7 files.
How much faster is this version though. Should I blow $300 to use it on small to mid-level projects? Will it make back the money I spend on it?

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gary adcock
Re: FCPX info from an insider
on Jun 21, 2011 at 3:57:17 pm

[Terry Mikkelsen] "Just read your article on MacWorld and was thinking I know that Gary guy. So I cruise over to the Cow and sure enough, one and the same."

same guy

much more viseral responses here, I do not have 2 editiors calming me down, just Tim trying to keep up today..

gary adcock
Studio37

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