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Mark Dobson
Issues with partitioned drive
on Aug 11, 2011 at 11:12:16 am

I've just created 3 partitions on a new drive on my Mac Pro and successfully installed Lion and FCP X on to one of the partitions.

However I have a problem in that my 2 external GTech drives are not appearing on the desktop, or in the finder and are also not showing up in Disk utilities.

All permissions are read /write.

It is a Samsung ST31000524AS 1 TB drive.

Has anybody else encountered this problem on a partitioned drive?

I first noticed the problem after I had installed and updated Snow Leopard prior to installing Lion.

Apple support suggested I continue with installing Lion. Well, having done that the 2 drives still have not appeared.

Would welcome feedback from someone who might have dealt with the same issue.

Mark Dobson
Producer and Director
Alembic TV
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David Roth Weiss
Re: Issues with partitioned drive
on Aug 11, 2011 at 3:38:37 pm

Mark,

Having written a tutorial on the subject, I've tested just about every possible configuration there is with multiple partitions, and none of my external drives have gone offline. I don't have any GTech drives however. I'd recommend you contact GTech directly, who I believe are now a division of Hitachi.


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Mark Dobson
Re: Issues with partitioned drive
on Aug 11, 2011 at 3:45:30 pm

Thank's David,

Because all my other drives are showing up I'm confident I've done things in a correct manner. So yes I will contact a GTech rep here in the UK.

Dang


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Rick Lang
Re: Issues with partitioned drive
on Aug 11, 2011 at 4:53:43 pm

[Mark Dobson] "However I have a problem in that my 2 external GTech drives are not appearing on the desktop, or in the finder and are also not showing up in Disk utilities."

May not be helpful, but have you checked the boxes to reveal external drives in Finder Preference/General and /Sidebar? Have you tried using Force Quit to restart the Finder? I once had a partition not show, but restarting Finder resolved it.

Rick Lang

iMac 27” 2.8GHz i7 16GB


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Mark Dobson
Re: Issues with partitioned drive
on Aug 11, 2011 at 6:13:41 pm

Hi Rick

Thanks for that advice.

No the drives are not showing up anywhere.

I'll try your quit finder tip a go.

I'm in discussion with a technical advisor for GTech and he suggested that I turn off and disconnect the eSata cables and then restart the GTech drives as they do not have an internal reset facility?

This sounded plausible as when one upgrades the software on the Matrox MXO2 Mini that's what you have to do.

But unfortunately it did not work.

I'll speak to the technician again tomorrow.

I'm sure it will get sorted.

Mark Dobson
Producer and Director
Alembic TV
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Rick Lang
Re: Issues with partitioned drive
on Aug 11, 2011 at 6:48:36 pm

To reset the external drives you should also remove their power after you turn the drives off; with no power connected, turn on the drives and wait a few seconds and turn them off again. Then you could do the same thing for your Mac: shutdown, remove all external drives, unplug the power, turn on the Mac by holding down the power button for at least five seconds, plug the power cord back into the Mac, reconnect the external drives and power on the Mac normally.

Rick Lang

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David Roth Weiss
Re: Issues with partitioned drive
on Aug 11, 2011 at 7:00:53 pm

Mark,

It just occurred to me, if you have an eSATA controller installed in your computer, and you have not installed the latest drivers, that will create an issue for many attached external drives, even if they are not connected via eSATA. So, you might need to remove the controller or install the new drivers, if they exist at this point (i.e. for Lion).


David Roth Weiss
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David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
http://www.drwfilms.com

Don't miss my new tutorial: Prepare for a seamless transition to FCP X and OS X Lion
http://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/FCP-10-MAC-Lion/1

POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™


Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.


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Mark Dobson
Re: Issues with partitioned drive
on Aug 11, 2011 at 7:26:19 pm

I've done all i can do for today.

I've disconnected power - leads etc etc from the GTech Drive - but no joy - thanks Rick

I'm going to investigate the esata card driver tomorrow - thanks David ( i think that is where the problem lies ) I could try connecting via firewire but my mac only has 400 fw ports and GTechs are fw 800.

But here in southern england it's time to turn off the computer.

Mark Dobson
Producer and Director
Alembic TV
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Mark Dobson
Re: Issues with partitioned drive
on Aug 13, 2011 at 11:13:30 am

So thanks to David Roth Weiss's suggestion I've got my esata connected Gtech drives working again on my new partitioned Lion drive.

It was the driver for my Startech ESATA PCI card which was causing the problem.

After a lot of trawling I eventually downloaded a Sonnet Esata driver update and everything is just as it should be.

So thank's David and others with their suggestions

mark

Mark Dobson
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David Roth Weiss
Re: Issues with partitioned drive
on Aug 13, 2011 at 4:33:46 pm

[Mark Dobson] "So thanks to David Roth Weiss's suggestion I've got my esata connected Gtech drives working again on my new partitioned Lion drive."

You're very welcome Mark. It's always good to hear back when a solution works. I just wish I'd solved the problem with one post and not two, but there's always room for improvement.

All the best,
David


David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
http://www.drwfilms.com

Don't miss my new tutorial: Prepare for a seamless transition to FCP X and OS X Lion
http://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/FCP-10-MAC-Lion/1

POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™


Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.


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Mark Dobson
Re: Issues with partitioned drive
on Aug 14, 2011 at 7:41:14 am

Hi David,

Problem solving is partially about elimination of causal factors.

I hadn't even thought the eSata card could be causing the issue. And neither had Apple support or Gtech support!

This all good practice for when I get a new MacPro (if it's ever upgraded in it's present form)

Maybe you could help me out with another query relating to setting up this partition drive.

Although I did not transfer applications to my new drive I've got a dock full of my apps from my primary
hard drive.

I was surprised to be able to run applications from my primary drive on this new one.

Many of these do not work, Final Cut Studio for example, which is prompting me to reinstall it.

I'm not going to do this as it defeats the whole purpose of the exercise which is to run FCP X on it's own.

So what I have done is to remove my primary hard drive from the MacPro and I am now going through a fresh install of FCP X, Compressor and Motion. I'll reinstall other programmes further on down the line.

So my question is how do I keep my new Lion / FCP X drive discreet from the rest of the drives on my MacPro?

Do I 'eject' the original boot up drive very time I open up the computer?

Or does it really not matter.

thanks

Mark Dobson
Producer and Director
Alembic TV
http://www.alembic.tv


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Rick Lang
Re: Issues with partitioned drive
on Aug 15, 2011 at 3:34:16 am

[Mark Dobson] "So my question is how do I keep my new Lion / FCP X drive discreet from the rest of the drives on my MacPro?"

Mark, I thought from your original post, you installed Lion (and FCP X) on one partition (or “volume”) of an internal drive that has three partitions. When you want to isolate FCP X from the rest of your system(s), you can boot from the partition in which Lion is installed. You can still see all your other partitions and other drives even when you boot from the Lion partition and that can be useful if you want to refer to data on other partitions and drives such as your media files. But when you boot into the Lion drive, you effectively isolate FCP X when you load it from that partition. FCP X (and other Applications programmes on that boot partition) will appear in the Finder as part of the “home” for the account you used when you booted into the Lion Partition. No need to unmount or remove your normal ‘primary’ drive.

You are right, you can run any application from any other part ion or drive, but your results may not be perfect as Mac OS expects your programmes to run from the boot drive and all library references for example will either refer to /Library or /Library, etc.

Rick Lang

iMac 27” 2.8GHz i7 16GB


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