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C. Park Seward
Set default dissolve rate in FCPX
on Jul 29, 2011 at 4:09:50 pm

I heard that you have to set rates in seconds, not frames. Is this true. If it is, one more fact that shows this is a consumer, not professional, editing program.

"...the inability to set the default transition in frames instead of a fraction of a second."

Is this correct?

Best,
Park


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Tom Wolsky
Re: Set default dissolve rate in FCPX
on Jul 29, 2011 at 4:41:27 pm

Frames are only meaningful if you're working in one frame rate format. If you have multiple projects in multiple formats or multiple formats of media in one project a percentage of seconds makes more sense. You have only to see how legacy versions of FCP handled frame rate discrepancies between PAL and NTSC.

All the best,

Tom

Class on Demand DVDs "Complete Training for FCP7," "Basic Training for FCS" and "Final Cut Express Made Easy"
Coming in 2011 "Complete Training for FCPX"
and "Final Cut Pro X for iMovie and Final Cut Express Users" from Focal Press


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Craig Seeman
Re: Set default dissolve rate in FCPX
on Jul 29, 2011 at 7:59:47 pm

It reminds me of camera shutter angle. 180° vs 1/60, the latter of which would have a different impact depending on frame rate one is shooting at.

Editing frame rates might be
59.94
50
29.97
25
23.98

So a setting of .5 seconds means it'll be just that duration regardless of time base.

A setting of 15fps might be OK for 29.97 but would be odd for 23.98 which would more likely be 12.
They should have a brief explanation of the rounding used because when editing 25fps one might expect 12 and not 13.

Some are used to just changing the default in frames when they set the time base for the project though.



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C. Park Seward
Re: Set default dissolve rate in FCPX
on Jul 29, 2011 at 11:08:09 pm

Tom,

I only work in NTSC, transferring legacy Quad and 1" material to digital files.

I prefer to think in frames. After 40 years, I got quite good at it. I like to say, "trim that two frames minus on the recorder side" instead of "1/15 th of a second".

Best,
Park


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Paul Jay
Re: Set default dissolve rate in FCPX
on Jul 29, 2011 at 6:25:40 pm

Thats a ridiculous comment.
Yeah im editing this documentary, its 90000 frames long, because i am a pro.


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Chris Harlan
Re: Set default dissolve rate in FCPX
on Jul 29, 2011 at 6:45:37 pm

No, I think this is a ridiculous reply. Or at least nonsensically rude.


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Paul Jay
Re: Set default dissolve rate in FCPX
on Jul 29, 2011 at 8:37:46 pm

Saying Final Cut Pro X is just consumer is ridiculous and uninformed.

Final Cut Pro 1 used to be a consumer toy right?


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Chris Harlan
Re: Set default dissolve rate in FCPX
on Jul 29, 2011 at 9:09:33 pm

[Paul Jay] "Final Cut Pro 1 used to be a consumer toy right?"

No. It wasn't.


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Paul Jay
Re: Set default dissolve rate in FCPX
on Aug 1, 2011 at 10:00:25 am

Everyone was calling FCP 1 a consumer toy. And then they took over AVID.


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Chris Harlan
Re: Set default dissolve rate in FCPX
on Aug 1, 2011 at 5:13:30 pm

Just by repeating something over and over again doesn't make it true.


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Craig Seeman
Re: Set default dissolve rate in FCPX
on Aug 1, 2011 at 5:17:07 pm

It is true that the original FCP overtook Avid in market share.

Given that Apple uses software to sell hardware there's good business reasons to believe Apple wants to use FCPX to sell more hardware. I won't get into the "pro" debate but I'd expect that they want FCPX to boost higher end iMac and MacPro sales.



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Chris Harlan
Re: Set default dissolve rate in FCPX
on Aug 1, 2011 at 5:31:50 pm

Of course that's true. If you follow the thread, though, that's not what we're talking about.


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C. Park Seward
Re: Set default dissolve rate in FCPX
on Jul 29, 2011 at 11:11:28 pm

It's an opinion. Any editing program that cannot adjust video in frames or fields is not professional, in my humble opinion.

New users who have not worked in editing for long may find other measuring methodology to their liking.

Best,
Park


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Craig Seeman
Re: Set default dissolve rate in FCPX
on Aug 1, 2011 at 5:41:12 pm

You responded to Paul Jay's post specifically. What he said was true.

The thread is about dissolve rates preference setting which is in fractions of seconds rather than frames.
There's no falsehoods there. There is judgement about that choice though.



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C. Park Seward
Re: Set default dissolve rate in FCPX
on Aug 2, 2011 at 2:03:31 am

How does FCPX show rates? I can understand 1/15 equals 2 frames but what about a trim for three frames? Or four?

Best,
Park


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Tom Wolsky
Re: Set default dissolve rate in FCPX
on Aug 2, 2011 at 4:41:47 am

It's just the transition preference that doesn't use frames. Everywhere else the application uses timecode.

All the best,

Tom

Class on Demand DVDs "Complete Training for FCP7," "Basic Training for FCS" and "Final Cut Express Made Easy"
Coming in 2011 "Complete Training for FCPX"
and "Final Cut Pro X for iMovie and Final Cut Express Users" from Focal Press


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C. Park Seward
Re: Set default dissolve rate in FCPX
on Aug 2, 2011 at 3:31:47 pm

Ah. That's much better. Thanks. I hope that don't "improve" timecode with something "better".

Best,
Park


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