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Marc Lucas
5D or 7D
on May 11, 2011 at 12:40:27 pm

This has possibly been asked a millions times but we are going to step into the DSLR video market. What are the fundamental differences between the two cameras and which is better for video work? I know is a very general question but any pointers or gotchas would be really appreciated to help make the decision. Also what kind of multi-purpose lens is good just to start with so I can get used to using the camera(s)

Again forgive me for the general and possibly repeated questions but I hope you can appreciate this is going to be a big purchase so getting a better understanding in a field that I'm not yet fully understanding does take time and research.

Thanks


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Brent Dunn
Re: 5D or 7D
on May 11, 2011 at 4:38:56 pm

5D has a bigger sensor, a little better in low light, a bit more detailed on the color. 7D has more convenient video controls.


If I were to do it now, I wouldn't get either. I'd get either the Panasonic AF 100 or the Sony NES FS 100
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/731509-REG/Panasonic_AG_AF100_AG_AF10...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/761578-REG/Sony_NEX_FS100U_NEX_FS100E...

Both give you the DSLR look you are seeking with the ability to use any of the canon or nikon lenses as well as the more filmic prime lenses.

These cameras blow away the DSLR's. Film type camera sensors, much better color space, 422 color sampling, video camera controls, etc. So you have the best of a film / video camera and the ability to use the DSLR lenses.

Brent Dunn
Owner / Director / Editor
DunnRight Films
DunnRight Video.com
Video Marketing Toolbox.net

Sony EX-1,
Canon 5D Mark II
Canon 7D
Mac Pro Tower, Quad Core,
with Final Cut Studio

HP i7 Quad laptop
Adobe CS-5 Production Suite





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Marc Lucas
Re: 5D or 7D
on May 11, 2011 at 4:48:52 pm

I've read that the Panasonic hasn't got that good revues with the picture quality.


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Brent Dunn
Re: 5D or 7D
on May 11, 2011 at 5:59:11 pm

I just saw it in action and it blew away the DSLR's.

Panasonic or Sony, you won't be dissapointed. It just looked awesome.

I know a guy who shoots video for a pro hockey team and Arena Football.

I don't own either camera, but from what I've seen in action sold me.

Here are some sample films.
http://vimeo.com/search/videos/search:panasonic%20af%20100/76ab8317

Here's the opening for the Tampa Bay Storm.


Brent Dunn
Owner / Director / Editor
DunnRight Films
DunnRight Video.com
Video Marketing Toolbox.net

Sony EX-1,
Canon 5D Mark II
Canon 7D
Mac Pro Tower, Quad Core,
with Final Cut Studio

HP i7 Quad laptop
Adobe CS-5 Production Suite





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Marc Lucas
Re: 5D or 7D
on May 11, 2011 at 10:26:54 pm

Have a read...


http://forums.dvdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=52897

Mmmm.


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Malcolm Matusky
Re: 5D or 7D
on May 19, 2011 at 6:48:50 pm

I bought the 7d soon after it came out, I still do not regret the decision. I like the camera and use it mostly for HD video shooting. As compared to the af100, that is a totally different camera and price point. I bought the DSLR because I wanted a DSLR, not a video camera. Now that there are adapters to use canon lenses on "video" cameras I still think my decision was right for me.
As I shoot documentary/industrial work, the 5D seemed way to hard to keep in focus at any given f-stop. the 1.6 crop sensor is a good compromise, yet still much larger than a 1/3" chip, about the same size as 35mm film aperture, so I'm OK with the sensor size. If you want an AF100, It's $6K with a lens adapter (Berger)so you can use canon lenses. That may be a future purchase for me, but for the moment I have been satisfied with the 7D and though of getting a HMC-150 to complement it, but still have not bought it as I am able to work within the cameras limitations.
Having started in 16mm film production, working with a 10~12 minute limit is fine with me. I don't shoot endless interviews, I am able to easily start and stop the camera between questions while keeping the audio recorder going. I don't shoot meetings or events that need to be seamlessly recorded, nor do I do multi-camera shoots, I make "films" with an HD video camera, not television, so for me the camera works great. If your needs are for event or "live" programming you would be better off choosing another camera, but as a replacement for a "film" style camera it has worked well.

Malcolm
http://www.malcolmproductions.com


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Marc Lucas
Re: 5D or 7D
on May 19, 2011 at 8:25:32 pm

Thanks for that Malcolm. I have been swayed towards the 5D because of the sensor size but found out that you can only monitor in HD from the 7D due to its HDMI output something that the 5D hasn't got. That is a big factor for me


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Malcolm Matusky
Re: 5D or 7D
on May 20, 2011 at 3:31:03 am

The 5DIII will be around soon, but the big difference is the sensor size, not the output resolution. As neither of these output "clean" HDMI that can be recorded onto a higher quality device, the real decision is how you are going to use the camera and if you can keep it in focus! BTW I operate alone, so a smaller sensor is beneficial, I use the OKI usb focus controller, works well.

Malcolm
http://www.malcolmproductions.com


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Marc Lucas
Re: 5D or 7D
on May 20, 2011 at 9:40:47 am

Hi
I don't want to record the output just use the HDMI into a small HD TV for monitoring purposes. We are doing TV commercial so we are looking at generally static lit shots so movement will be minimal.


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