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Nick Griffin
Headhone gain for 5D III?
on Jun 12, 2014 at 4:54:35 pm

Is there a control for getting more volume to the headphone output. (And WOW, is the manual that comes with this camera inadequate. I mean seriously incomplete and obtuse.)


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Ryan Holmes
Re: Headhone gain for 5D III?
on Jun 13, 2014 at 1:47:07 am

DSLR's = use second source audio. The in-camera audio on DSLR's should really only be used as scratch audio, in my opinion.

Your question about adjusting headphone volume is answered in the Canon manual, page 235.

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Nick Griffin
Re: Headhone gain for 5D III?
on Jun 13, 2014 at 3:18:29 pm

[Ryan Holmes] "answered in the Canon manual, page 235"

Thanks, Ryan. Actually page 237.


[Ryan Holmes] "DSLR's = use second source audio. The in-camera audio on DSLR's should really only be used as scratch audio"

I fully agree and certainly would never use the camera's mic for anything but reference. The add-on mini shotguns are only minimally better and certainly not acceptable for professional work.

What I have been experimenting with are external XLR mixers which feed the camera's mic input. Conclusions so far is that the JuicedLink "ultra portable mixer" (at least the one I was using) introduces waaaay to high of a noise floor to be ever considered for serious work. On the other hand the Sound Devices Pre-Mix D outputting at line level, and with the camera's input level cranked down to one step above off, sounds fantastic. Problem is whether or not it sounds $900 fantastic so I'll probably keep looking.

We primarily bought the 5D mk III to do static interviews on location, so I really want to stick with a single system approach if at all possible.

Special thanks to the Audio Cow's Ty Ford for allowing me to test and playback both of these options in his studio.


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Warren Eig
Re: Headhone gain for 5D III?
on Jun 13, 2014 at 5:08:15 pm

As Ryan said, It's a double system camera. Think of it as a 'Film' camera. You have to record and control sound through a separate device.

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Ty Ford
Re: Headhone gain for 5D III?
on Jun 13, 2014 at 6:17:02 pm

The TASCAM DR60D is also a great way to capture sound for the mk iii.

Even though it's a mixer and recorder, it's line output works much the way the Sound Devices Mix Pre D does and it's a lot less expensive. ($349) More here.

http://tyfordaudiovideo.blogspot.com/2013/10/tascam-dr-60d-four-track-digit...

Nick and I didn't have time to get into that, but I did the work previously with local DP Rick Diamond and found the DR60D and mk iii made acceptable 16 bit files on the camera. No double record required. The DR60 D is a bit of a battery hog. You could choose to use the DR60 D to double record or to feed the mk iii.

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Roy Plisko
Re: Headhone gain for 5D III?
on Oct 3, 2016 at 8:49:20 pm

So I googled "headphone gain on Mark iii" and came to this post where someone actually took the time to look it up in the manual. . . just to tell everyone in a public forum the page number to go look themselves. There's some lost time I will never get back.


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Ira Herman
Re: Headhone gain for 5D III?
on Mar 21, 2017 at 9:04:06 pm

I had to reply here because the Internet needs more info than checking a page in the manual. Fortunately for me, I have the manual so that was actually very helpful. Here's what to do:

To turn the volume up or down in video mode:
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hit the Q button
hold the RATE button and press up or down on the multi directional controller.

This turns the volume up or down -- there is no visual display of headphone level, you can hear the difference though as you do it.

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Hope that helps future people who find this on a google search!


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