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Chip Yamada
Sound locked first, PROTOOLS to PREMIERE CC workflow question
on Oct 22, 2015 at 10:39:34 pm

Hello all, thank you for existing in these times of need! Creative Cow community has saved my @$$ innumerable times.

The project is a dialogue driven show, multi-cam shoot.

The sound is edited first, then footage is synced to the chopped up audio.
Workflow has been exhausting as the editors are scrambling to sync all the clips blind.
(Don't blame me, the project had little time to work things out before delivering the first few weeks of shows,
now we're are looking at making life less painful for the editors.)

My first instinct is to have the sound editors:
-Make a TC Window Burn on a video master shot
-Sync master to audio (group in Protools) and make all edits to the soundtrack and video master concurrently.

Video editors will then have TC to sync to. Make sense?

Anyone with a better idea?

Thanks x infinity billion!


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Ty Ford
Re: Sound locked first, PROTOOLS to PREMIERE CC workflow question
on Oct 23, 2015 at 12:06:56 pm

Hello Chip and welcome back to the Cow Audio Forum.

I have an idea, but don't know how well it might work.

Using your edited protools audio as a master, can you use Pluraleyes to sync all the video clips?

https://www.redgiant.com/products/pluraleyes/

Regards,

Ty Ford
Cow Audio Forum Leader

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TC Yamada
Re: Sound locked first, PROTOOLS to PREMIERE CC workflow question
on Oct 23, 2015 at 10:35:05 pm

Thanks for your reply!

To my knowledge, Pluraleyes will work in the reverse order, it will move the audio clips to line up with video clips.

How to take an OMF/AAF and give video editors a roadmap to line up video files?
Does the AAF have 'timecode' for every audio region?

Will a video file grouped with a master audio file reflect editing changes in the audio? how do you export the edited video file?

Thanks


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Peter Groom
Re: Sound locked first, PROTOOLS to PREMIERE CC workflow question
on Oct 24, 2015 at 12:32:28 pm

This strikes me as 100% crazy
But seeing as you've started out doing this completely the wrong way round then you can try exporting an edl from pro tools or other ( if you must) and use those TV values to find the right material in the video edit

But this is crackers!
1 always record scratch audio on the video record
Sync audio in nle to pics
Cut
Export to audio as omf / aaf for mix
Peter

Post Production Dubbing Mixer


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Ty Ford
Re: Sound locked first, PROTOOLS to PREMIERE CC workflow question
on Oct 24, 2015 at 3:30:27 pm

Chip,

You might want to check again. I've seen Pluaraleyes move video clips.

Regards,

Ty Ford
Cow Audio Forum Leader

Want better production audio?: Ty Ford's Audio Bootcamp Field Guide
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Peter Groom
Re: Sound locked first, PROTOOLS to PREMIERE CC workflow question
on Oct 24, 2015 at 9:21:21 pm

you can use the
File / export/ session info as text function to generate just teh data that you need to identify which tc parts of the audio file have neem used and where in the sequence to speed up the syncing video back to them.
Still manual but not blind.
Peter

Post Production Dubbing Mixer


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Peter Groom
Re: Sound locked first, PROTOOLS to PREMIERE CC workflow question
on Oct 24, 2015 at 9:26:30 pm

Or export an omf from pro tools of the audio sequence and then import this into avid media composer and enable all headings in bin. this then shows similar detailed data of the clips used, which bits and where in the sequence.
Peter

Post Production Dubbing Mixer


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TC Yamada
Re: Sound locked first, PROTOOLS to PREMIERE CC workflow question
on Oct 27, 2015 at 5:55:55 pm

Thanks!


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