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Jeff Lent
choosing wired lapel/lavalier mic with portable recorder
on Aug 22, 2013 at 12:49:13 am

Hello folks,

I shoot short films/ business promos and the occasional interview via dslr. I have a decent set up as far as camera/lenses, lighting and rigging are concerned but im constantly borrowing sound. Paid work is scarce so my budget is max €150.

I currently looking for a second hand zoom h4, h4n or tascam dr-40. My preferance is the h4n but my descision will be based on price/availability.

For the lapel, the best i could find in my budget were:

AKG C417PP
http://www.thomann.de/ie/akg_c_417_ph.htm

Audio Technica Pro 70
http://www.thomann.de/ie/audio_technica_pro_70.htm?sid=df2b445e33caddc4495f...

The links provide a sample voice recording. In your opinion do either of these mics represent good value? The akg is omnidirectional and the ATP70 is cardiod, i know the technical explaination of each but which works better as a lapel? For this limited budget would i be better going for a cheeper possibly unbalanced lapel with a zoom h2 and a rode videomic for a more durable set up?

Your thoughts/ suggestions are greatly appreaciated
Thanks
Jeff


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Ty Ford
Re: choosing wired lapel/lavalier mic with portable recorder
on Aug 22, 2013 at 3:36:51 pm

Hello Jeff and welcome to the Cow Audio Forum.

Always omni unless you are in total control of mic placement and the environment is very noisy.

Regards,

Ty Ford
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Bill Davis
Re: choosing wired lapel/lavalier mic with portable recorder
on Aug 23, 2013 at 12:02:23 am

[Jeff Lent] "For this limited budget would i be better going for a cheeper possibly unbalanced lapel with a zoom h2 and a rode videomic for a more durable set up?
"


You would be nuts to go for any unbalanced mic system over a balanced one.

A balanced circuit literally defeats all or some of any common mode interference (read HUM or RF noise) you encounter. Unbalanced does not.

In order for it to work properly - EVERYTHING about the circuit in use must remain balanced - the mic, the cable and the recording device input. But if those circuits are intact and properly functioning, you'll avoid HUGE problems in otherwise difficult recording circumstances.

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Jeff Lent
Re: choosing wired lapel/lavalier mic with portable recorder
on Aug 27, 2013 at 12:56:07 am

Thanks Bill. My thinking was a high end unbalanced set up would be somewhat comparable to a low end unbalanced set up. I see Ty Ford is in agreement with you

I have some work coming up so i need to make a purchase this in the next day or two. Im always a bit indecisive when buying new equipment, it helps to run it by others. Im not entirely convinced by either mic but unfortunately i cannot increase my budget so i will have to choose between them.

Thanks again
Jeff


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