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Dana Mroczek
Recording Audio for Cannon 5d/7d shoots
on Jan 3, 2011 at 6:37:05 pm

Hello!

I run audio on a lot of shoots that are using Cannon 5d/7d camera's with no audio inputs these days. I will be running a shure fp33 into a Sound devices 702 but don't currently have away to back this up while recording (Usually would run into the 702 and the camera). I am looking for a somewhat in expensive solution and was wondering what others have been doing in similar situations?


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Brian Reynolds
Re: Recording Audio for Cannon 5d/7d shoots
on Jan 3, 2011 at 10:27:19 pm

The use of 5D & 7D cameras has certainly changed the way things happen, some good some bad but it is what it is.....
To back-up the SD 702 maybe a Zoom H4n [I know its not up to the same standard] but its a backup and better than recording on the camera itself.
Use a larger GB card and fresh batteries and let it wild record the entire shoot rather than stop start.
Have we got complacent with lower cost gear, back in the 1/4 tape and Nagra days there was NO backup.

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Dana Mroczek
Re: Recording Audio for Cannon 5d/7d shoots
on Jan 4, 2011 at 2:19:34 am

Thanks for the suggestions guys!


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Anthony Bari Jr.
Re: Recording Audio for Cannon 5d/7d shoots
on Jan 4, 2011 at 1:29:44 am

I use both the Zoom H4N or Rode Video Mic, you can also, hook up a Sennhieser Wireless mics direct to the camera.

The only issue is making sure to do a test clip and playback to make sure you mic is recording.

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Ty Ford
Re: Recording Audio for Cannon 5d/7d shoots
on Jan 4, 2011 at 3:59:10 am

Hello Dana and welcome to the Cow Audio Forum.

How 'bout the Sony M10?

Regards,

Ty Ford

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Brian Reynolds
Re: Recording Audio for Cannon 5d/7d shoots
on Jan 4, 2011 at 8:47:48 pm

One negative side of the Sony M10 is it uses micro SD or memory micro stick and its internal storage to record onto, I prefer a standard SD card that is then handed & charged to the client at the and of the shoot.
The SD card is becoming a standard in the Video, Audio and Photo world, easy to find... even at the local corner store, a bit like AA batteries.
XLR inputs and phantom power are a plus also.

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Dana Mroczek
Re: Recording Audio for Cannon 5d/7d shoots
on Jan 6, 2011 at 5:48:05 am

Thank you Sam. You have a great blog, I will definitely keep reading.


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Sam Mallery
Re: Recording Audio for Cannon 5d/7d shoots
on Jan 4, 2011 at 3:45:21 pm

I'm with Ty. Use the 3.5mm Tape Out on the FP33 and plug it into the line-level 3.5mm input on a Sony PCM-M10.

I do a lot of shoots with DSLR cameras now-a-days, and I always make two copies of the audio in my bag. I record onto a Edirol R09HR and a Zoom H4n. The reason I suggest the PCM-M10 is that (like the Edirol R09HR) it's a good little recorder, but the PCM-M10 has the best battery life in the whole portable audio recorder market by a landslide.

http://www.sam-mallery.com


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Dana Mroczek
Re: Recording Audio for Cannon 5d/7d shoots
on Jan 4, 2011 at 4:48:59 pm

Ty and Sam,

Thank you! I have never looked into the Sony PCM-M10 but will now. I have used the Zoom H4n many times but have never been satisfied with it's "line" level 1/4 inputs. I always get a very hot signal still and in the end even when I am pushing towards peaking it I still get a fairly quiet recording. Thanks for the advice!!


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Dana Mroczek
Re: Recording Audio for Cannon 5d/7d shoots
on Jan 4, 2011 at 5:07:50 pm

Also Sam,

Would running the tape out of the fp33 into the Sony PCM line in be a summed (L R) mono track?


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Sam Mallery
Re: Recording Audio for Cannon 5d/7d shoots
on Jan 5, 2011 at 2:46:55 pm

The FP33 comes stock with the Tape Out set at stereo line-level. You can adjust it to be summed L+R mono or mic-level by opening it up and doing some soldering.

http://www.sam-mallery.com


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Eric Toline
Re: Recording Audio for Cannon 5d/7d shoots
on Jan 6, 2011 at 12:55:16 pm

Where are you setting the recorder levels? -12dbfs is best for these small recorders.


Eric


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