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Lot Mallari
Mic For DVD Commentary
on Dec 4, 2009 at 11:02:22 pm

I'm looking for a mic to use it for dvd commentary. We have two mic preamps. They are Focusrite ISA 428 and Presonus M80.

We recorded DVD commentary in our vo booth about five times for two to four people. We rented the Sennheiser MKH 416 and hook it up to Focusrite mic preamps then to Protools. It works fine.

For this kind of purpose, which mic do you recommend.

Thanks,

Lot



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Jordan Wolf
Re: Mic For DVD Commentary
on Dec 5, 2009 at 1:24:29 am

If you have achieved the desired results with the microphone you rented, why not purchase the same model?

I do rather enjoy a close-mic'd speaking voice with a nice shotgun microphone. :-)

However, first you need to provide us with a budget. The Neumann U87 or something from the TLM series are both familiar V/O and studio mics. Others are:
Electrovoice RE20
Shure SM7 (or the newer SM7B)
Rode NT1-A
Sony C48 (Very warm, solid-state microphone)

Ribbon microphones of any type would be a great pick. Royer, AEA, and Shure (who acquired Crowley & Tripp microphones) are all great models.

Wolf
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Lot Mallari
Re: Mic For DVD Commentary
on Dec 5, 2009 at 2:55:04 am

I heard good reviews of Neumann U87, but it's expensive. It's over our budget. I'll check your suggested mic list.

Thanks for the info.

Lot



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Jordan Wolf
Re: Mic For DVD Commentary
on Dec 5, 2009 at 5:10:49 pm

Ty recently purchased a TLM102, I believe. I heard the recording of it with an acoustic guitar an was pretty impressed. I wasn't listening through reference monitors or anything, but most clients won't be either.

Make sure you audition your mixed/remixed material through sources similar to those your clients will be listening to.

Wolf
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Ty Ford
Re: Mic For DVD Commentary
on Dec 5, 2009 at 5:33:30 pm

Not purchased, sent to me for review.

Regards,

Ty Ford

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Jordan Wolf
Re: Mic For DVD Commentary
on Dec 5, 2009 at 6:55:37 pm

Ah, I see - my mistake.

Are you considering buying one because of said review? :-)

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Ty Ford
Re: Mic For DVD Commentary
on Dec 6, 2009 at 2:16:51 am

Wolf,

I don't really need one (or two) but they do make nice pets.

Regards,

Ty Ford

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Jordan Wolf
Re: Mic For DVD Commentary
on Dec 6, 2009 at 7:59:08 am

Well, sure: you just have to feed them some P48 and exercise their diaphragms. They can get a little stiff from being in the mic locker for too long, ya know?

Wolf
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Ty Ford
Re: Mic For DVD Commentary
on Dec 5, 2009 at 1:41:32 pm

Hello Lot and welcome to the Cow Audio Forum.

The new Neumann TLM 102 is a good place to start. It's new for Neumann and does quite nicely for voice.

This is for VO, not on camera, right?

Regards,

Ty Ford

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Lot Mallari
Re: Mic For DVD Commentary
on Dec 7, 2009 at 4:58:05 pm

Hello Ty.

It's for DVD commentary. The movie cast will talk about the feature in the sound booth while they are watching it. They will hear the feature and the conversation from the headphones. They'll talk thru the microphones, then goes to mic preamps (focusrite ISA 428) then to Protools.

The Neumann TLM is 102 is over our budget. How about around $500 or less?

Thanks,

Lot





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Ty Ford
Re: Mic For DVD Commentary
on Dec 7, 2009 at 5:22:09 pm

Lot,

I'd put them on a Countryman E6, over the ear. That way you don't have to worry about keeping them on mic. It'll be much more casual and you'll still get good sound.

Regards,

Ty Ford



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Lot Mallari
Re: Mic For DVD Commentary
on Dec 7, 2009 at 10:56:17 pm

That was the recommendation of our vendor (rental company), but the producer doesn't like it. I don't remember what type of E6 did we rent.

Obviously should be unidirectional? Is that correct?

Lot



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Ty Ford
Re: Mic For DVD Commentary
on Dec 7, 2009 at 11:04:57 pm

Lot,

Why doesn't your producer like it?

Omni is fine.

Ty Ford



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Lot Mallari
Re: Mic For DVD Commentary
on Dec 7, 2009 at 11:16:53 pm

I believe it's preference. He decided to use Sennheiser MKH416, because he used it before on his previous dvd commentary

Should I use unidirectional or omnidirectional E6?

Lot



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Ty Ford
Re: Mic For DVD Commentary
on Dec 7, 2009 at 11:41:45 pm

Lot,

as long as he can get w/in 18" with the 416, fine.

as I said, omni for the b6.

Ty Ford

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Lot Mallari
Re: Mic For DVD Commentary
on Dec 8, 2009 at 12:05:04 am

Sorry I just want to clarify something. You've mentioned before E6 and now you said B6.

Which one is correct?

Lot



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Ty Ford
Re: Mic For DVD Commentary
on Dec 8, 2009 at 12:16:34 am

sorry, it's after 7pm here. E6 OMNI

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Jordan Wolf
Re: Mic For DVD Commentary
on Dec 8, 2009 at 12:09:06 am

Screw the preference - this is about what will best capture the source audio.

Why not rent the MKH416, buy an E6, and use both - then choose which one sounds better in post-production? You've got 4 channels of nice preamp to work with...I say use it! You can ALWAYS find a use for an E6 (works great on-stage for corporate productions and violinists). Shotgun mics have a more limited use as compared to an E6, in my opinion.



Wolf
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Lot Mallari
Re: Mic For DVD Commentary
on Dec 8, 2009 at 12:37:36 am

Thanks Ty and Jordan for your time answering my questions.

Lot Mallari



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