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Jason Grigg
Full Mix vs. Dip Mix Levels
on Jul 20, 2009 at 1:40:18 am

In terms of audio for TV broadcast, what is the difference between Full mix and Dip mix levels?


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Ty Ford
Re: Full Mix vs. Dip Mix Levels
on Jul 20, 2009 at 1:53:10 pm

Hello Jason and welcome to the Cow Audio Forum.

How are you defining a dipped mix? What's dipped and what isn't?

Regards,

Ty Ford



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Jason Grigg
Re: Full Mix vs. Dip Mix Levels
on Jul 20, 2009 at 3:48:48 pm

The APT specs for my Music and Effects track requires "full mix levels, not dip mix levels"


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Peter Groom
Re: Full Mix vs. Dip Mix Levels
on Jul 20, 2009 at 3:56:20 pm

Hi
This is for an M&E submission. Dipped stems or mixes are where the music or effects would "dip" under say the Voice over. If they specify undipped, then this means that if the put a different length foreign language on it for example, the underlaying m&E mix wont dip where the old vo used to be, but not with the new one.

Just mix it without the vo and leave the relative values between effects and music the same but dont mix them under the vo

Peter

Dubbing mixer

Peter


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Jason Grigg
Re: Full Mix vs. Dip Mix Levels
on Jul 20, 2009 at 4:20:55 pm

Perfect! Thank you very much Peter.


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Peter Groom
Re: Full Mix vs. Dip Mix Levels
on Jul 21, 2009 at 1:09:54 pm

Hi
Just to add. i should have put this on the priginal post.
Clearly as theres a use for dipped stems, just like theyre a problem in other cases, theres often the need to produce a whole raft of what are called "deliverables"

All M&E
5. 1 stems dipped
5.1 stems un dipped
Stereo dipped
Stereo un dipped

Clearly with so many requirements, on a system like Pro tools, its worth investing the time setting up a VERY complex routing and monitoring matrix to do ALL the deliverables in 1 pass. Not a problem when its 30 seconds, but a 90 min film is a different matter.

Peter

Peter


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Jason Grigg
Re: Full Mix vs. Dip Mix Levels
on Jul 22, 2009 at 10:10:08 pm

Cool! Thanks for sharing you're knowledge


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