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Eric Strom
Purchasing a Sound Devices 702 - What else do I need?
on Mar 5, 2009 at 6:03:01 am

I am Purchasing a Sound Devices 702. What else do I need besides a 4GB CF card? What mics and cables should I buy. I am thinking 2 wireless and 1 shotgun mics but wihch ones will give me the most bang for my buck? A recommended product list of what I should buy would be great. My head is spinning looking at all the options. Thanks!



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David Jones
Re: Purchasing a Sound Devices 702 - What else do I need?
on Mar 5, 2009 at 4:59:18 pm

Hi Eric-

What are planning on using the 702 for? What's your budget? Money no object?

Need a little more info be recommendations can be made :o)

Regards,
Dave


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Ty Ford
Re: Purchasing a Sound Devices 702 - What else do I need?
on Mar 5, 2009 at 8:32:16 pm

Hello Eric and welcome to the Cow Audio Forum,

Do you not need timecode? If you need timecode, make sure you get the 702T.

You need a mixer and mics and cables and headphones.

The Sound Devices 302 mixer mates well with the 702. I think Sound Devices also has a good mixer to camera cable if you just want to go staright to camera. They also have other accessory cables, as needed.

Wireless Mics: the Sennheiser G2 series wireless or Audio Technica 1800 are as low as I'd go. The Lectrosonics are a notch up and Audio Ltd are at the top.

Boom mics; you'll want a shotgun (mostly for exterior) and a hypercardioid (mostly for interior).
In descending order from best to not as good.
Shotguns: Schoeps CMIT, Sennheiser 416, Sennheiser, MKH 60, Rode NTG-3, Sanken CS-3e
Hypercardioid: Schoeps cmc641, Audix SCX-01 HC, Oktava MC012 w/ hyper capsule.

Headphones: Sony MDR7506.

Wind gear: Rycote
Boom: K-tek
Boom suspension mount: Rycote InVision

Regards,

Ty Ford




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Eric Strom
Re: Purchasing a Sound Devices 702 - What else do I need?
on Mar 6, 2009 at 5:28:41 am

Do I really need one with timecode? Won't I be fine if I just use a clapper and sync up the audio with the video?

Will a $1300 mixer really make that much of a difference?

Presuming my budget for all this is $3000 what should I get? That automatically rules out the mixer.

Thanks


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Ty Ford
Re: Purchasing a Sound Devices 702 - What else do I need?
on Mar 6, 2009 at 5:51:46 am

Hello Eric,

Let's take 'em one at a time.

>Do I really need one with timecode? Won't I be fine if I just use a clapper and sync up the audio with the video?

Clapper will work, sure, but with time code and a video camera with time code a syncing becomes a lot easier.

>Will a $1300 mixer really make that much of a difference?

I have the 442 mixer and 744T 4 track recorder. In a pinch, the 702 and 702T can be used without a mixer, but you can't mix very well because the knobs on the 744 and 702 aren't really designed to follow dialog. The 302 mixer allows for three simultaneous inputs. The 702/702T only has two.

Presuming my budget for all this is $3000 what should I get? That automatically rules out the mixer.

If you went to the store with soup money and found out you were hungry for meat, what would you do.

Regards,

Ty Ford

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Eric Strom
Re: Purchasing a Sound Devices 702 - What else do I need?
on Mar 6, 2009 at 7:03:39 am

Okay so if it is just a matter of making it easier then that's fine. I have never had an issue with syncing up to a clapper. I'll be able to tell if it is out of sync as long as the audio doesn't drift.

Okay, so I agree that the mixer would be wonderful but I was planning on recording each separately anyways and mix in post especially since it's that much more money i may not be able to afford.

>If you went to the store with soup money and found out you were hungry for meat, what would you do.

I would eat soup instead of becoming a male prostitute to afford the meat. :) I see your point really, but there has to be line drawn for each individuals budget.


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David Jones
Re: Purchasing a Sound Devices 702 - What else do I need?
on Mar 6, 2009 at 3:40:36 pm

Again, what are you planning on recording? This can make a big difference in what gear you might want to get. I have the 702T because I needed timecode for double-system. In my opinion, if you're doing ANYTHING with video/film, timecode can be a big help. If you're just recording "wild sound" or music, or anything where syncing it to picture isn't needed, then a non-timecode recorder is fine.

As far as a mixer goes, I agree with Ty that you need something. Those volume knobs on the recorder are not really designed (or meant) to be ridden like faders on a mixer. You might try looking for a used mixer on some of the audio store websites or even ebay. I also agree with the equipment list Ty recommended.

Regards,
Dave J


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Eric Strom
Re: Purchasing a Sound Devices 702 - What else do I need?
on Mar 15, 2009 at 12:42:51 am

Okay, I will have to try to find some finacning to afford all this. Do yo have specific Lectrosonics mics you would suggest? There are a ton to choose from on their site.



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Bill Brock
Re: Purchasing a Sound Devices 702 - What else do I need?
on Jun 29, 2009 at 11:59:33 pm

Ty, you really put the Sanken CS3e below the NTG3? I'm curious why when everyone raves about it? Thanks!


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Ty Ford
Re: Purchasing a Sound Devices 702 - What else do I need?
on Jun 30, 2009 at 12:57:29 am

Hello Bill,

It was a list of mics. I don't think it was in a specific order, but I think the NTG-3 is less prone to RF than the CS-3e. That's based on anecdotal info. Although I have demoed both, I haven't done both at the same time. I can say the NTG-3 is slightly wider than the 416 and is lighter on the bottom.

Regards,

Ty Ford

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