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andy raben
Protools software
on Jan 8, 2009 at 7:58:34 pm

I am currently using protools version 7.4.2 on a MBox 2 pro system. Can anyone give me feedback on upgrading to software version 8.0? the good, Bad, and Ugly appreciated.

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Ty Ford
Re: Protools software
on Jan 8, 2009 at 10:02:17 pm

Hello Andy and welcome to the Cow Audio Forum.

From their press release. Only you can tell if it's a good thing for you. I've taken every PTLE upgrade so far. Haven't done this one yet.


Ty Ford

Digidesign Ships Pro Tools 8 Software
Provides everything needed to create, compose, score, record, mix, produce and broadcast in single application.

DALY CITYDigidesign®, a part of Avid Technology, Inc. (Nasdaq: AVID), today announced the immediate availability of Pro Tools 8 software, the company’s highly-anticipated, next-generation music creation and audio production software., Calif., (December 17, 2008) —

Available now through authorized Digidesign dealers as well as at, Pro Tools 8 is the latest version of the industry-leading digital audio workstation. A dramatically enhanced feature set is highlighted by a completely updated user interface, more than 70 bundled plug-ins and virtual instruments, fully-integrated MIDI and score editors and an expanded array of editing features for both music and post production applications.

“Customer excitement for this release of Pro Tools is at an all-time high,” stated Tex Schenkkan, Vice President and General Manager, Audio at Avid. “We believe that this is not only in response to the substantial changes and additions we've made to the product, but also because so much of what’s new came directly from customer feedback. We are grateful for their contributions, and are looking forward to hearing what they produce using all the powerful new capabilities included in Pro Tools 8.”

For composers and musicians, Pro Tools 8 provides powerful functionality for streamlining the creative process, and delivers the most versatile sonic palette ever available out-of-the-box for Pro Tools. New music creation features include:
· Fully integrated MIDI and Score Editor windows for greatly enhanced MIDI editing functionality and professional score editing and printing
· A sizable collection of music creation and sound-processing plug-ins, including: 20 all-new effects and five new virtual instruments—Mini Grand piano, Boom drum machine, DB-33 tonewheel organ, Vacuum tube-modeled synthesizer, and Xpand!2™ sample player
· High-quality amplifiers simulation via Digidesign’s acclaimed new guitar amp emulator Eleven™ Free as well as Tech21 SansAmp® amplifier emulator
· An 8 GB bundle of high-quality loops
For music and post production professionals, Pro Tools 8 offers:
· Revolutionary Elastic Pitch, which makes it easy to transpose music in real time right in the Edit window
· 10 inserts per channel
· Enhanced controller integration with Digidesign and M-Audio® control surfaces
· ICON integration enhancements that dramatically increase speed and efficiency
· HD QuickTime support on Mac OS X for increased versatility

Pro Tools|HD® 8 also enhances the extensive capabilities of Digidesign’s flagship Pro Tools|HD audio hardware, with support for the new Satellite Link option, which allows users to control up to five Pro Tools|HD systems as one. Additionally, the Avid® Media Composer® based Video Satellite option brings Avid HD/SD video playback into the Pro Tools|HD audio workflow, while the new Video Satellite LE option allows Pro Tools|HD editors to play QuickTime HD/SD video or Avid® SD video from a separate but synced Pro Tools LE system, thereby preserving track count and processing power on the host Pro Tools|HD system. Satellite Link, Video Satellite and Video Satellite LE will be available in December, 2008.

For project studio owners, Pro Tools LE 8 and Pro Tools M-Powered 8 support up to 48 simultaneous audio tracks out of the box. Adding the new Music Production Toolkit 2 or DV Toolkit™ 2 (Pro Tools LE only), gives users access to up to 64 audio tracks. And for serious Pro Tools LE users, the new Complete Production Toolkit (Pro Tools LE only) combines the content of both toolkits, and offers up to 128 simultaneous audio tracks and 7.1 surround mixing. All three toolkits are currently available through authorized Digidesign dealers as well as at

Pricing and Compatibility
Pro Tools 8 software is available for Windows Vista- (32-bit Business or Ultimate with Service Pack 1), Windows XP- (Home and Professional with XP Service Pack 3), and Mac OS X 10.5.5 (Leopard)-based Pro Tools|HD, Pro Tools LE, and Pro Tools M-Powered systems. Customers who have purchased a new Pro Tools system or upgrade since October 3, 2008, are eligible for a free software upgrade. Customers purchasing new systems with old software are also be eligible for the free upgrade. Pro Tools 8 software is currently available through authorized Digidesign dealers as well as at

Pro Tools HD 8 Upgrade: $249 US
Pro Tools LE/M-Powered Upgrade: $149 US
Pro Tools M-Powered Full Version: $299 US (available through authorized dealers only)

The Music Production Toolkit 2 and DV Toolkit 2 for Pro Tools LE systems are currently available through the authorized Digidesign dealers as well as at Customers who have purchased a Music Production Toolkit or a DV Toolkit 2 since October 3, 2008 are eligible for a free upgrade to the newer versions. The Complete Production Toolkit is available today through authorized Digidesign dealers as well as at

Music Production Toolkit 2: $395 US
DV Toolkit 2: $1295 US
Complete Production Toolkit: $1995 US

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JC Boulay
Re: Protools software
on Jan 9, 2009 at 3:18:14 pm

For the complete lowdown on all things PT, I suggest you come over and join us on the Digidesign User Conference at

In general, PT8 is relatively stable on newer MacPro's, though a few bugs have been flagged. A few of those cause crashes after a specific series of MIDI track manipulations. A few MIDI track resizing issues as well. There have been many reports of problems with Beat Detective working with fades, so if you rely on that kind of workflow, you should clearly wait it out. The main issue, though, seems to be screen redraws and general performance becoming extremely sluggish on many systems, mostly G5's with ATI graphics cards, though the culprit has yet to be identified exactly. There doesn't seem to be a reason for the slowdown and it may be down to memory leaks that made it through beta.

The upgrade process itself is pretty smooth if you're already running Leopard. Since you're on 7.4.2 I imagine that is the case. Plugin compatibility has not changed at all since 7.4.2, so you save a lot of headaches there.

If you have a current system with power to spare, I'd say go for it. If you have an older system or laptop, I'd wait it out until at least the first CS update release. If you're going to do this kind of upgrade on any machine involved in your day-to-day workflow, I always advise that you set up a dual boot system, so you always have your fully-functional 7.4.2 system should things go pear-shaped with the new system.

Happy pondering!

JC Boulay
Audio Z
Montreal, Canada

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