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mark asquith
Exported media is not the same as when viewed in the timeline
on Sep 15, 2017 at 10:28:17 am

hi all

I have a project, made up of 48fps HD drone and 25fps HD camcorder footage. It's rendered, with effects and transitions and plays fine in the timeline. I imported the various clips by 'keeping existing settings'.

However, I am having 2 problems ( challenges )

1-When I apply higher speed settings to clips, CS6 is dropping frames from the end of some of them - so I have had to overcompensate to get clips to end where I want them to - but this takes time and effort and I'd rather not have to! (each one has to be rendered to make sure it stops at the right place)

2-although the finished project plays fine in the timeline, the exported media (mpeg2; I have tried exporting as 25fps pal and 29.97fps ntsc - same result), the final mpeg includes parts of sequences that I have edited out as well as missing smaller pieces that I have left in.

I can't find a similar problem elsewhere in the forum. I suspect it's settings-related but can't see how or what I am doing wrong. I have always edited only 25fps dvcam footage before and have never had this problem.

thankyou for any guidance in resolving!


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Jon Doughtie
Re: Exported media is not the same as when viewed in the timeline
on Sep 15, 2017 at 3:08:22 pm

Is any of your drone footage VFR (variable frame rate)? Premiere Pro needs CFR (constant frame rate) footage.

You can convert VFR to CFR using Handbrake. It's free. (handbrake.fr)

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mark asquith
Re: Exported media is not the same as when viewed in the timeline
on Sep 15, 2017 at 4:45:07 pm

Thanks Jon I'll check that out , haven't changed whatever default setting it came with ( other than setting from 4K to hd). Hadn't considered that at all so Thankyou and hope that's it! Regards, mark


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mark asquith
Re: Exported media is not the same as when viewed in the timeline
on Sep 15, 2017 at 11:17:13 pm

darn ... Hi Jon, I converted varios clips to constant by using handbrake, put them into the sequence to replace existing clips ... but CS6 still drops frames ...... I am 'gutted'. Looks fine in timeline but exports a different perspective. hugely frustrating..... Am hoping for other suggestions ....
all the best,
Mark


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mark asquith
Re: Exported media is not the same as when viewed in the timeline
on Sep 16, 2017 at 12:08:05 pm

I'm trying different settings to export with but none yet work - tried h264, mpeg 2, at 25 and 29.97fps. I have keyframe change set to 1, bitrate 8mbps, am rendering at max depth.


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mark asquith
Re: Exported media is not the same as when viewed in the timeline
on Sep 18, 2017 at 11:33:58 pm

hi Jon, no change - all is the same - yet the exported h264 file (or mpeg - tried both) is different to what I see when i view the project in the timeline -I don't get it ..... and it's very frustrating!!). My footage is sped up; if I don't , I dont get the problem (but I need to speed it up for this project). help ...! regards, Mark


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Todd Perchert
Re: Exported media is not the same as when viewed in the timeline
on Sep 19, 2017 at 6:37:33 pm

Have you tried transcoding your footage to a different file format, like DNxHD or ProRes? Something that PPro may handle a little better. As far as previous edits showing up in render, delete your render files, then try your render again if that happens.
TC


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mark asquith
Re: Exported media is not the same as when viewed in the timeline
on Sep 19, 2017 at 10:01:18 pm

thanks Todd will try that (although Handbrake doesn't seem to have those outputs - have you a recommended software that would transcode to these formats?). I've deleted the previous render files and will re-render. It's very frustrating; I've use Premiere for years and not had this before - it's only since I've been using 48fps (drone) footage. I am using custom project settings of 50fps (as 48fps is not an option).
I'll reply again when have re-rendered.
thankyou for the advice, regards, Mark


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mark asquith
Re: Exported media is not the same as when viewed in the timeline
on Sep 19, 2017 at 11:03:51 pm

hi Todd

re-rendering didnt change things I'm afraid. Have found that handbrake DOES convert to PRO-RES so trying that now

regards, Mark


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Todd Perchert
Re: Exported media is not the same as when viewed in the timeline
on Sep 20, 2017 at 3:20:39 pm

I thought you may be able to convert to another format with Media Encoder. Would def make files that work well in PPro.
TC


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mark asquith
Re: Exported media is not the same as when viewed in the timeline
on Sep 21, 2017 at 9:12:05 am

Thanks Todd

Does this mean encoding to a different FPS setting (i.e. from 48 to 60) which Premiere can handle (as I suspect that it's the frame rate that is causing the problem) or do you think by converting the 48fps footage to a different file type - but still at 48fps - will solve the problem? thankyou!


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Todd Perchert
Re: Exported media is not the same as when viewed in the timeline
on Sep 21, 2017 at 10:27:35 pm

I would keep the fps the same. If you need to change the rate, do that in PPro.


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Todd Perchert
Re: Exported media is not the same as when viewed in the timeline
on Sep 21, 2017 at 10:28:28 pm

Let us know if anything helps or not.
TC


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