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Mikkel Fausing
Image Sequence XML Import
on Apr 6, 2017 at 8:53:17 am

Hi.
I'm trying to make life a bit easier by generating an XML file to quickly import a number of image sequences into a Premiere Pro project (PPro 2017.0.2 in case it matters).

It almost works - but when I import this XML file into premiere, it imports the first file in the sequence as a Still Image rather than an image sequence.
The path to the file is correct, and the first frame does show up just fine.

It feels like it's only a small change that's required, but I have not been able to find any information on it anywhere.

Since the (sample) XML is very short, I also included it here (the real file has a few hundred clips, they all behave the same way).

I tried manually importing an image sequence into premiere and exporting the result as FinalCut XML, but if I re-import that file, it also gets imported as a Still Image, so no help there.

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<xmeml version="4">
<bin>
<name>mpf_07 Images</name>
<children>
<bin>
<name>Preview</name>
<children>
<clip id="mpf_07_01">
<duration>229</duration>
<in>0</in>
<out>229</out>
<name>mpf_07_01</name>
<media>
<video>
<track>
<clipitem id="clipitem-Preview-mpf_07_01">
<name>clipitem-Preview-mpf_07_01</name>
<file id="file-Preview-mpf_07_01">
<name />
<pathurl>E:\mpf_07_01.0101.jpg</pathurl>
<rate>
<timebase>24</timebase>
<NTSC>FALSE</NTSC>
</rate>
<duration>320</duration>
<timecode>
<rate>
<timebase>24</timebase>
<ntsc>FALSE</ntsc>
</rate>
<string>00:00:00:00</string>
<frame>0</frame>
<displayformat>NDF</displayformat>
<reel>
<name />
</reel>
</timecode>
<media>
<video>
<samplecharacteristics>
<width>2048</width>
<height>1126</height>
</samplecharacteristics>
</video>
</media>
</file>
</clipitem>
</track>
</video>
</media>
<rate>
<timebase>24</timebase>
<NTSC>FALSE</NTSC>
</rate>
</clip>
</children>
</bin>
</children>
</bin>
</xmeml>


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Alex Udell
Re: Image Sequence XML Import
on Apr 6, 2017 at 3:21:09 pm

do you have access to the old FCP?

perhaps trying an import there and then seeing how they structure the XML will clue you in to how to structure yours...

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Tero Ahlfors
Re: Image Sequence XML Import
on Apr 6, 2017 at 4:42:15 pm

Premiere supports all kinds of image sequences but I've never heard that it could actually conform from image sequences. If this is a feature you want then you should write here about it: http://www.adobe.com/products/wishform.html

Resolve supports conforming from image sequences but the image sequences will need proper information like reel names and timecodes.


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Mikkel Fausing
Re: Image Sequence XML Import
on Apr 9, 2017 at 4:15:42 am

Hi Tero, thank you for your reply.

Maybe I need to add a bit more detail - I'm talking about the difference between importing as a still frame and image sequence, when using the UI it's this checkbox:

The XML import will take the image fine, but as a still frame rather than sequence. I would just like for a way to tell Premiere that it should import as "Image Sequence" (this option was formerly known as 'numbered stills').

These frames are CG renders so they don't really have reel information, timecodes and other "real film" data - they are just numbered with a sequential suffix: .0101.jpg, .0102.jpg and so forth. Premiere has no problem importing them as a sequence when adding them via the UI - it's just when importing the bin via XML it fails.

If this option is truly not there in Premiere, then I will certainly add a "wish" for it on the Adobe platform, but I was hoping to solve the problem in a timelier fashion than that :)


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Andreas Kiel
Re: Image Sequence XML Import
on Apr 9, 2017 at 6:22:46 am

Mikkel,

You misunderstand what an XML is or how it works.
It's not an app or something which can do anything.
It's just an list, an intelligent table of contents.

If there would be a kind of plugin in PP which could be used creating a movie out of image sequences which is intelligent enough to store parameters for XML - a XML would work.
Otherwise the XML just is could for saving the references to the files etc.

A feature request won't help at all.

- Andreas

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http://www.spherico.com/filmtools

"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby
become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will
also gaze into thee." - Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil


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Mikkel Fausing
Re: Image Sequence XML Import
on Apr 9, 2017 at 6:47:56 am

Thanks for your reply.

You misunderstand what an XML is or how it works.
It's not an app or something which can do anything.
It's just an list, an intelligent table of contents.

I do know what an XML file is though, thank you 😏 I am not expecting the XML file to "do" anything on its own - what I'm looking for is a way for the XML file to tell Premiere to do something specific when I import it (or to be pedantic, to include information in the XML that Premiere will read and understand).

If there would be a kind of plugin in PP which could be used creating a movie out of image sequences which is intelligent enough to store parameters for XML - a XML would work.
Otherwise the XML just is could for saving the references to the files etc.

Yes, indeed. And Premiere will then parse that list of references to files, when I click "Import..." inside of Premiere. What I'm looking for is a way to tell Premiere that when it parses that list, the files referred to in the file element should be imported as Image Sequence (instead of Still Image), the same way Premiere will do it if I manually select the same file using the Premiere UI.

Now maybe Premiere cannot do it, but the rest of the features are already there - importing an XML file, Premiere parsing that file and creating a bin and a clipitem based on the data in the XML file etc. I can even set up sequences of multiple layers and clips, I just cannot get those clips to be interpreted as Image Sequences rather than Still Image.

Here's a quick image of the process:


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Alex Udell
Re: Image Sequence XML Import
on Apr 12, 2017 at 5:54:55 pm

what if you do this?

Use PPro and import and image sequence...

then export that test as XML and reverse engineer it...

or have you tried that and not been successful?

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Mikkel Fausing
Re: Image Sequence XML Import
on Apr 13, 2017 at 4:50:46 am

Hi Alex, thanks but yes, that was literally the first thing I tried (and it doesn't work, as outlined in the OP).


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Alex Udell
Re: Image Sequence XML Import
on Apr 13, 2017 at 12:57:32 pm

Sorry....glossed over that....

It must be then....that the XML spec doesn't support Image sequence source...

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Mikkel Fausing
Re: Image Sequence XML Import
on Apr 13, 2017 at 1:32:26 pm

Yes, that is indeed the problem. I have put in a query regarding adding it to the spec with Adobe, but they didn't seem to see the need, citing future upgrades to the API that cannot be spoken about yet.


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