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Pierre-Luc Boucher
Exporting lossless video (x264 vs h264 and more!)
on Mar 17, 2017 at 2:37:29 am

Hey there,

I just finished editing an extended version of the MST3k Movie and I'm ready to export the final product. I exported some previews with the following settings:



The short previews looked great with these settings, but I want to make sure the actual movie is exported at the highest quality (lossless or as close). The project was made from the original Blu-ray M2TS files, 1920 x 1080.

• It's my understanding that x264 is better than H264?
• Is there an advantage to using Adobe Media Encoder instead of Premiere?
• I might want to add an alternate audio stream later in an MKV. Should I export the video stream and audio stream separately?

Hope this info helps you and thanks in advance!

PL Boucher


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Tero Ahlfors
Re: Exporting lossless video (x264 vs h264 and more!)
on Mar 17, 2017 at 7:21:11 am

[Pierre-Luc Boucher] "lossless or as close"

H264 or x264 aren't even close to lossless. You would probably want to use DNxHD


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Pierre-Luc Boucher
Re: Exporting lossless video (x264 vs h264 and more!)
on Mar 17, 2017 at 1:18:34 pm

Good to know, I wasn't familliar with this codec. The reason I thought of H264 as the best option was this: when I demux the streams from an MKV made directly from a Blu-ray using tsMuxer, the codec for the video stream usually shows H264.

Was I wrong in my way of thinking? I see DNxHD is made by AVID, so would it be compatible with Premiere?

Thanks for your reply!

PL Boucher


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Tero Ahlfors
Re: Exporting lossless video (x264 vs h264 and more!)
on Mar 17, 2017 at 1:53:08 pm

DNxHD is built into Premiere. Blu rays support H262, H264 and VC-1.


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Jeff Pulera
Re: Exporting lossless video (x264 vs h264 and more!)
on Mar 17, 2017 at 2:06:01 pm

PL,

A very important question - what is the purpose of this export - what do you want to do with it? That will influence the choice of codec you choose.

Is it for a MASTER copy, from which you can later export various formats, or do you want to post online, or...??

Thanks

Jeff Pulera
Safe Harbor Computers


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Pierre-Luc Boucher
Re: Exporting lossless video (x264 vs h264 and more!)
on Mar 17, 2017 at 4:43:01 pm

Hi Jeff,

The purpose of the export is to have a personal copy of my extended cut that's comparable or indistinguishable in quality to the officially released Blu-ray, since my edit is meant to be an alternative to the real movie. The resulting file has to be easily played and shareable on a variety of devices (computer, TV with USB drive, Plex, etc).

Once exported, it will not be posted online or re-encoded in different formats or burnt to disc. It will be a file that can be readily accessible to play on devices mentioned above.

Hope that makes sense!


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Jeff Pulera
Re: Exporting lossless video (x264 vs h264 and more!)
on Mar 17, 2017 at 4:48:47 pm

For the compatibility/playback reasons you mention, then .mp4 is the most standard format to use.

Your current settings should produce a very high-quality result. You may want to uncheck "Max Render Quality" - that is only used for scaling, which you are not doing in this case, frame size is constant between Source and Export.

Thanks

Jeff Pulera
Safe Harbor Computers


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Pierre-Luc Boucher
Re: Exporting lossless video (x264 vs h264 and more!)
on Mar 20, 2017 at 12:46:11 am

That's good enough for me!

Thank you both
PL


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