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oliver jones
matte painting looks static
on Jun 18, 2016 at 11:42:06 am

Hello all, my first post to this forum (long time lurker though) :)

My question is this:

A friend and I are working on a small hobby/scifi project.

We want to combine 2 shots: our live action with actors AND a matte painting my friend made in Photoshop. Combining the two in Premiere is no problem. It looks ok I guess, but there is something wrong with the matte painting: it looks static. I hope that makes sense (English is not my first language).

Normally, a matte painting is a glass painting, that is filmed with a filmcamera at 24 fps. But ours, is of course a computer drawing. So, it appears as a still. It looks like you pushed the pause button on your DVD.

Is there any way to make it look like it was filmed? I tried panning and zooming, to give it the illusion of movement, but that just looks like you zoom in on a still frame. I gave it a bit film grain and noise, but that doesn't work either.

We where thinking of printing the picture on big paper, and filming it, but that would look like crap :)

Thanks, and I hope it makes sense!

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Dave LaRonde
Re: matte painting looks static
on Jun 19, 2016 at 12:35:48 pm

If you put grain on the matte, you've done all you can. I don't know what's in the matte image, but perhaps you could put some motion into parts of it. Then you enter the realm of effects work, which takes planning and not guesswork.

Dave LaRonde
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KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA

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Duke Sweden
Re: matte painting looks static
on Jun 19, 2016 at 3:27:21 pm

I ran into this youtube tutorial yesterday. It might or might not be of help but could give you some ideas.

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Tero Ahlfors
Re: matte painting looks static
on Jun 19, 2016 at 7:59:44 pm

You'll need to comp and blend the different layers in. Add some grain. Maybe add some lens blur to fake depth of field.

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Jon Doughtie
Re: matte painting looks static
on Jun 20, 2016 at 1:18:45 pm

All of the above a good suggestions.

The other thing you are battling against is the reality that you know it is a still. Others may not see it the way you do.

With that said, various techniques to help "sell" the shot have the potential to make it more realistic. Movement/action in background, inserts in windows, etc.

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oliver jones
Re: matte painting looks static
on Jun 22, 2016 at 5:11:10 pm

Thanks guys.

I'll try experimenting with grain and add some pan/zoom.

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