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Phil Hawes
Quadro 4000 and ATI 5770 on a Mac Pro
on Sep 24, 2012 at 8:03:40 pm

Hello to all,

Is there any advantage or are there any known problems with putting the ATI HD 5770 graphics card in slot 1 and the NVIDIA Quadro 4000 in slot 2 of the Mac Pro 5,1?

My thinking is to maximize the Quadro 4000 for GPU acceleration in Premiere and After Effects CS6.


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Erik Lindahl
Re: Quadro 4000 and ATI 5770 on a Mac Pro
on Sep 24, 2012 at 8:56:28 pm

Can Premier Pro CS6 actually use a non-GUI-card for CUDA acceleration?


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Phil Hawes
Re: Quadro 4000 and ATI 5770 on a Mac Pro
on Sep 24, 2012 at 9:05:02 pm

No, it can't.

Only the Quadro 4000 has a CUDA driver.
The ATI card will be used for the displays.

Since I posted this message I've been doing some tests which seem to indicate that the Quadro 4000 works better by itself without the ATI card installed.

Does anyone else have this experience?


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Chris Borjis
Re: Quadro 4000 and ATI 5770 on a Mac Pro
on Sep 24, 2012 at 10:15:18 pm

The quadro has to be the display card for Premiere to use it.

This is frustrating to those that want to also use it with DaVinci,
which wants the card to NOT be the display.



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Phil Hawes
Re: Quadro 4000 and ATI 5770 on a Mac Pro
on Sep 25, 2012 at 4:22:40 pm

Agreed. That is frustrating if you want to use Resolve.
I intend to learn Speedgrade since that apparently will be supported by NVIDIA.

Regarding the combination of ATI graphics cards and NVIDIA graphics
cards on a Mac Pro, I also received the following reply from NVIDIA support:

"The combination of a NVIDIA Quadro card and ATI HD 5770 graphics card would not be compatible as there might be driver conflicts as the drivers for the Quadro card and the ATI card are not unified."

This might explain the problems I had in Pemiere with both cards installed: no playback and crashing.


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Francois Driessen
Re: Quadro 4000 and ATI 5770 on a Mac Pro
on Sep 25, 2012 at 11:58:01 pm

I've been running the 5770 and a Q4000 for premiere without hassles...

MacPro 8core Wesmere. 24G ram.
OS 10.7.4
Latest Cuda driver 5.0.24 & Resolve9
Black Mgic DecLink Studio SDI. Latest driver. 9.6.4

Got the 5770 in Slot 1 running 2 displays
Q4000 in slot 2. GPU only.
Then DecLink in 3 and CalDigit eSATA for raid.

What problems are you facing exactly? What codecs are you working with and what's you sequence codec?

Francois

FireTrigger Inc.
http://firetrigger.com


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Phil Hawes
Re: Quadro 4000 and ATI 5770 on a Mac Pro
on Sep 26, 2012 at 3:07:01 pm

I have several Mac Pros where I had both graphics cards installed.
Some of them have the exact configuration you have, same OS, same CUDA driver, minus Resolve and the Black Magic Card.

I'm surprised you can put the Black Magic card in slot 3 since that is a slower x4 PCI slot.

The problems I had were not codec specific. But it started when I was working with a slightly larger than 2K image sequence file on a 1080 24p sequence. So I was asking Premiere to do rotation, image resizing, frame interpolation,and cropping. I had no playback.

With the ATI card removed, my playback problems were solved.

Perhaps it was not the card, perhaps there are other problems on that machine (RAM?) but as a precaution I have removed all ATI cards until I can test this out further.

If you run into any issues please post it on this forum.

Thanks for the response.


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Gerry Curtis
Re: Quadro 4000 and ATI 5770 on a Mac Pro
on Sep 26, 2012 at 7:20:02 pm

Hi There,

I am running Premiere 6.01 and Resolve with those 2 cards under the same configuration as Francois, it works fine for me.

Cheers,

Gerry

http://www.digitalkilnstudios.com
http://www.savasanafilm.com


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Cali Pvp
Re: Quadro 4000 and ATI 5770 on a Mac Pro
on Oct 6, 2012 at 3:10:52 am

I've been using both ATI 5870 and a Quadro 4800 and have not had any problems.

Model Identifier: MacPro5,1
Processor Name: Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz
Number of Processors: 2
Total Number of Cores: 8
Memory: 16 GB




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scott reynolds
Re: Quadro 4000 and ATI 5770 on a Mac Pro
on Jan 22, 2013 at 10:18:55 pm

Nice rig. Where are you getting the additional power from? I thought the 5,1 only had 2 additional power connectors for PCIe cards and the 5870 uses both?

Cheers,
scott


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Cali Pvp
Re: Quadro 4000 and ATI 5770 on a Mac Pro
on Jan 29, 2013 at 4:43:32 am

I was a little concerned when I first installed both cards. Well... very concerned.... But I'm glad I did it. I've been running both cards now for more than a year, almost two years without any problems. Knock on wood. As for the power, I bought a power adapter with to connections and ran one to the Quadro card and the other two to the ATi card.


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scott reynolds
Re: Quadro 4000 and ATI 5770 on a Mac Pro
on Jan 30, 2013 at 7:32:35 pm

I'm glad it's running well. You're marginally over the power specs for the machine. The 5,1 can support a max of 300W for PCIe, the 5870 runs 188W and the 4800 runs 150W. I hope you don't have Apple Care, they might invalidate your coverage based on your setup. Thanks for your answer on the power connectors. I hope your rig continues to give you no problems.


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Cali Pvp
Re: Quadro 4000 and ATI 5770 on a Mac Pro
on Feb 21, 2013 at 6:36:22 am

Hello Scott,

Can you post a link where it say the max for the PCIe slots is 300w? I've looked on apples site and googled it and still could fine anything. I'm looking to upgrade my memory so power is a real concern. Thanks in advance.


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Cali Pvp
Re: Quadro 4000 and ATI 5770 on a Mac Pro
on Feb 21, 2013 at 7:24:02 am

I see it now on the apple site. hmmm... does this mean I've been lucky so far?
300W combined maximum for all PCI Express slots

I wonder how I can check to see how much power my Mac is using. I can't find any counters that will tell me.

Currently I have:
16GB ram installed
4 hard drives (one is an SSD drive)
2 video cards


I guessing if I add memory the power is separate from the PCIe slots.


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Ralf Kohr
Re: Quadro 4000 and ATI 5770 on a Mac Pro
on Mar 6, 2014 at 4:46:12 pm

Hi Francois,

I am in the middle of setting up a Mac Pro 5.1 Mid 2010 I will receive next week and I saw your setup. I do have some questions about it and it would be great if you have some spare time to answer them.

Here I go:
- I thought a 5770 has a required width of 2 PCI slots, how is it possible that you have a q4000 on slot 2? Do you have some extension slots installed?
- Do you use a raid card on slot 4 or is your raid a tower which is connected through usb/thunderbolt?

Thanks again,
Regards,
Ralf
http://www.ralfkohr.com


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Francois Driessen
Re: Quadro 4000 and ATI 5770 on a Mac Pro
on Mar 6, 2014 at 6:55:15 pm

HI, R

I need to update my profile... :-) My setup currently for my Resolve suite looks like this:

MacPro 3.1 , 32Gig RAM
MacOs 10.8
Samsung SSD for system
Quadro4000 GUI
GTX 680 Cuda
CalDigit Raid 4x eSATA
BM DeckLink SDI

There is only 2x 6pin cables to power both cards. But the power-source for the Mac Pro has plenty of juice to handle it. So the solution I came up with is to put one cable in either card, and then to get an additional SATApower to 6pin adapter cable that goes into one (or two) of the empty drive bays to add additional power to the GTX680. I ran a monitoring app to make sure I'm not hitting the power source too hard but it did not even get close even with heavy nodes. NOTE: (* ADD disclaimer here: Should you decide to the same it's completely at your own discretion... I'm not advocating you should follow my lead blindly. )

Francois

FireTrigger Inc.
http://firetrigger.com


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George Demetriou
Re: Quadro 4000 and ATI 5770 on a Mac Pro
on Mar 30, 2014 at 1:12:50 am

Hi. Can you post some pics of your rig


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