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ryan elder
The clips won't touch each other in Premiere Pro, what do I do?
on Oct 19, 2018 at 4:44:57 am

Basically I am editing on the timeline and the clips won't touch. I think I figured out the problem. Basically I was editing on a 24 fps timeline, when the videos were shot in 25 fps, which was causing frames to skip. So I copied and pasted all that I edited in a new 24 fps timeline to prevent frame skipping.

The frame skipping appears to be gone now, but now the clips won't touch in certain sections because of it. Is there a way to fix this at all?


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Dave LaRonde
Re: The clips won't touch each other in Premiere Pro, what do I do?
on Oct 19, 2018 at 5:18:52 pm
Last Edited By Dave LaRonde on Oct 19, 2018 at 5:21:02 pm

It's never, EVER a good idea to mix frame rates. You're seeing why.
Since we don't know precisely what you're doing, the way to proceed is up to you.

Dave LaRonde
Promotion Producer
KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Daniel Waldron
Re: The clips won't touch each other in Premiere Pro, what do I do?
on Oct 19, 2018 at 7:51:51 pm

You probably have to manually adjust them. Premiere doesn't know to add the extra frame that is needed.


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ryan elder
Re: The clips won't touch each other in Premiere Pro, what do I do?
on Oct 19, 2018 at 10:42:45 pm

Okay thanks, but Premiere will not let me manually adjust them, it just doesn't do anything when I try to touch the frames.


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Dave LaRonde
Re: The clips won't touch each other in Premiere Pro, what do I do?
on Oct 19, 2018 at 10:51:54 pm

What, you can't move the clips on the edit timeline?

Dave LaRonde
Promotion Producer
KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA


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ryan elder
Re: The clips won't touch each other in Premiere Pro, what do I do?
on Oct 19, 2018 at 11:27:00 pm

No sorry, what I mean is, is that I can't get them too touch if I move them.


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Daniel Waldron
Re: The clips won't touch each other in Premiere Pro, what do I do?
on Oct 20, 2018 at 1:18:14 am

Can you post a screenshot?


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Dave LaRonde
Re: The clips won't touch each other in Premiere Pro, what do I do?
on Oct 21, 2018 at 3:20:12 pm

Y'know, you could save yourself a lot of grief if you just worked with your 25fps footage in a 25fps timeline. What's stopping you from doing that?

You can always do a frame rate conversion once you've exported the finished cut.

Dave LaRonde
Promotion Producer
KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA


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ryan elder
Re: The clips won't touch each other in Premiere Pro, what do I do?
on Oct 21, 2018 at 11:20:23 pm

Well what's stopping is that I would have to do all the work all over again. Sorry I didn't take any pics yet to show what I mean but I will.

But all the work of doing it all over again, is what was stopping me and I thought maybe there is a quicker way.

As for converting it during exporting, I tried that but the problem is, is that frames are taken out, when I convert it back to 25fps, since it was all edited on a 24 fps timeline.


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Dave LaRonde
Re: The clips won't touch each other in Premiere Pro, what do I do?
on Oct 22, 2018 at 1:51:27 am

Well, Bud, you are hosed as far as I know. Personally, I don't know why you would ever think it was okay to edit 25 footage in a 24 timeline. It's beyond me.

As far as I know, you have to re-edit. And next time, ponder the implications of mixed frame rates.

Dave LaRonde
Promotion Producer
KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA


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ryan elder
Re: The clips won't touch each other in Premiere Pro, what do I do?
on Oct 22, 2018 at 2:22:35 am

Okay thanks. I thought it was shot in 24 but the DP shot this one section in 25 for scene in 25 it seems. I can just re-edit in on 25 fps timeline, but can it then be put in with the rest on a 24 fps timeline? I suppose I could tell Premiere Pro to re-interpret it as 24 frames in which case I will get one frame more or slow motion every second, if that's okay?


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Dave LaRonde
Re: The clips won't touch each other in Premiere Pro, what do I do?
on Oct 22, 2018 at 4:58:41 pm
Last Edited By Dave LaRonde on Oct 22, 2018 at 6:47:32 pm

If it's a limited amount of 25fps footage....

and you DO NOT have to worry about lip-sync audio...

...you should be okay conforming 25 fps to 24.

You should also be able to do a copy-paste from the current 24fps timeline into a new 25 fps timeline, which might make things easier. There would be minimal tweaking and you could export the 25fps timeline in a good intermediate codec, then just conform it to 24fps.

While you're at it, give your DP a good-natured Dope Slap for mixing frame rates.

Dave LaRonde
Promotion Producer
KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA


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ryan elder
Re: The clips won't touch each other in Premiere Pro, what do I do?
on Oct 22, 2018 at 10:10:56 pm

Okay thanks. I tried copying and pasting it but the program still reads it as 24 fps on a new 25 fps timeline. If nothing else works I can just redo it.


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