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Chad Greene
rewrapped XAVC not viewable
on Apr 30, 2018 at 11:00:11 pm

I have some footage shot on the Sony F5 that was originally imported by Final Cut Pro X. On the card it was .MXF and then rewrapped as .mov by X.

Now when I import this footage into Premiere it comes in as audio only. The footage plays fine in the Finder, Quicktime and X. Any ideas on how to get this media to work in Premiere?


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Dave LaRonde
Re: rewrapped XAVC not viewable
on Apr 30, 2018 at 11:22:37 pm

If you have the most recent update to Premiere Pro, you may have to transcode. Adobe dropped support of many older, but still widely-used QT codecs.
"mov" just tells us it's Quicktime, not the codec.

Dave LaRonde
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KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Chad Greene
Re: rewrapped XAVC not viewable
on May 1, 2018 at 2:57:08 pm

I am sorry Dave. I had the codec only in the title of this post. But here is more detail.

Final Cut Pro X sees the original .mxf file as "XAVC Intra 422/10 Class 300"
and the rewrapped .mov file as "XAVC 4K 24p"

Chad Greene : Mahoney Media : Minneapolis, Minnesota : 2x2.66 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 12GB Ram, OS 10.11 FCPX, Kona-LHi


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Dave LaRonde
Re: rewrapped XAVC not viewable
on May 1, 2018 at 5:42:30 pm

This sounds like a case of a codec not available to PP. I'm wondering if you'll find it via Sony.

Dave LaRonde
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KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Chad Greene
Re: rewrapped XAVC not viewable
on May 1, 2018 at 6:08:59 pm

It is strange that the codec works in X but not in Pr.

I brought the same file in to X, Resolve and Premiere. X and Resolve can see and play the file. Premiere can not. It doesn't sound like an uninstalled codec. What am I missing?

Chad Greene : Mahoney Media : Minneapolis, Minnesota : 2x2.66 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon, 12GB Ram, OS 10.11 FCPX, Kona-LHi


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greg janza
Re: rewrapped XAVC not viewable
on May 1, 2018 at 6:14:19 pm

can you upload a small .mxf clip?

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Chad Greene
Re: rewrapped XAVC not viewable
on May 1, 2018 at 8:59:52 pm

Greg here is a 3 second .mxf file straight off the camera and that same shot rewrapped as a .mov file.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1LABBKHjUa5Eesy0FsHHXkTIeP_JrWkbD?us...

Here is what I see when I import into Pr.





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greg janza
Re: rewrapped XAVC not viewable
on May 2, 2018 at 5:14:02 am

I imported your files and I get the same results but isn't it irrelevant since the original files work just fine in Premiere.

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Tero Ahlfors
Re: rewrapped XAVC not viewable
on May 2, 2018 at 7:21:06 am

[Chad Greene] "Premiere can not. It doesn't sound like an uninstalled codec. What am I missing?"

The file is using an Apple specific pro codec that is not found in Premiere. The latest Premiere only has support for their own encoder/decoder for Quicktime and it will not read any installed external codecs.

Is there a reason you can't use the camera originals in Premiere?


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John Pale
Re: rewrapped XAVC not viewable
on May 2, 2018 at 2:24:26 pm

Premiere Pro now uses its own internal engine to decode Quicktime files. There are fewer codecs supported than before. Mostly this affects older codecs, that are seldom used, but in this instance its biting you in the butt. Use the original MXF files, if you can.


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Chad Greene
Re: rewrapped XAVC not viewable
on May 2, 2018 at 4:22:38 pm

[John Pale] "There are fewer codecs supported than before. "

Hmm I wonder if there is a workaround. For the last 5 years we have been filming for a documentary series, then importing to FCPX (rewrapping the media). Now we are talking about letting new editors rough cut in Premiere (where they are more comfortable), but currently they can't see our media and it would take a huge effort to rewrap back to .mxf or transcode to something else.

If I can get this Apple flavored codec to work with Premiere, then our editors can choose what tool they want.


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Tero Ahlfors
Re: rewrapped XAVC not viewable
on May 2, 2018 at 5:01:19 pm

You could try this: http://www.drastic.tv/productsmenu-56/mediareactorlist/mediareactor-lite-ad...


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Chad Greene
Re: rewrapped XAVC not viewable
on May 2, 2018 at 5:10:53 pm

That looks good except it is Windows only. We are all Mac.

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