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Mark Suszko
Issues adding captions to timeline with .srt files
on Mar 20, 2018 at 8:15:20 pm

I'm such a beginner at Premiere ProCC , please forgive what's probably a simple question/problem...

I have a 28-and-a-half-minutes-long show on my timeline, to which I want to add a caption track. I make the transcript/ captions using YouTube, and once the captions there are perfect, I download an .SRT file. This has always worked in the past, but I've only used it for shorter things so far, and not had to actually lay the caption track into Premiere pro until today.

That .SRT file, I import or drag and drop to the timeline, (tried both ways) and I see it there, and I can line it up for timing, and all looks good and simple... I play the timeline and bam; I see my captions, timing out correctly, good to go... except there are no captions past the 12-minute point of the show.

The little page-like icons on the caption timeline end at the 12 minute mark. The captions time out right, the words appear where they are supposed to. There just aren't any past the 12 minute mark.

I right-click on the caption picon in the bin to get info on it and I see it declares the clip has a 12 minute duration.

Where's the other half of my show captions?

Dragging the caption track to match length with the program track doesn't reveal more captions, just more, empty, colored bar. where they should be...

The file size for the caption file is 48k.

Do you think this is a Premiere problem or something wrong with the .SRT file I'm downloading from YouTube? I'm guessing my procedure is wrong somehow but I don't know at what point it's wrong.

Could I make this work with a .VTT file instead? That's another option I have for download of the captions.

The end goal is to generate a file for cable TV playback with captions attached, and to burn DVD's with the captions attached to them as well. A quick how-to on that would also be welcome, but first, we have to solve the Mystery of Edwin Drood... I mean, mystery of the missing second half of my captions.


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greg janza
Re: Issues adding captions to timeline with .srt files
on Mar 20, 2018 at 8:19:34 pm

Premiere is very weak when it comes to captions. Build all of your captioning outside of Premiere. Amara.org is very good for creating captions and there are apps that will marry the srt file to a master video file.

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Mark Suszko
Re: Issues adding captions to timeline with .srt files
on Mar 20, 2018 at 8:35:59 pm

Thanks Greg but have you actually got a tip for fixing this in Premiere?


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Mark Suszko
Re: Issues adding captions to timeline with .srt files
on Mar 20, 2018 at 8:34:49 pm
Last Edited By Mark Suszko on Mar 20, 2018 at 8:51:10 pm

Update: imported the video and the .srt file into VLC, everything works as expected, captions exist and time out to the end of the program in VLC.

Which makes me think it's a Premiere problem and not a problem with how I'm getting my .srt file in the first place.

Somehow, when the. srt file gets into Premiere, it's getting assigned a 12 minute duration, and nothing I do to it on the timeline brings back the "cut off" second half of my show captions..


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greg janza
Re: Issues adding captions to timeline with .srt files
on Mar 20, 2018 at 9:29:13 pm

That's why I suggested going out of Premiere to do all captioning. Premiere is just problematic when it comes to captions so best to use other programs.

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Mark Suszko
Re: Issues adding captions to timeline with .srt files
on Mar 20, 2018 at 9:56:29 pm

"Doctor, it hurts when I do this!"
"Then don't do that!"



Premiere is what I'm using. Any tips to solving this in Premiere would be appreciated.


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Mark Suszko
Re: Issues adding captions to timeline with .srt files
on Mar 21, 2018 at 2:48:53 pm

Update: Looking in the metadata pane, saw something weird. Look at the frame rate.



How does that happen? And yet, even with these settings the way they are, all the first twelve minutes of captions time out perfectly, matching the video and audio of the master timeline.

Where can I command Premiere to give this set file the right frame rate and duration?

How do I get my proper 28:30 duration on the caption track? Dragging on the end of the track *looks* like it might help, but it changes nothing regarding the actual captions.


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Andreas Kiel
Re: Issues adding captions to timeline with .srt files
on Mar 22, 2018 at 1:55:21 pm

As mentioned above: serious SRT import into PPro only exists in the manual.
TTML works better - but also includes a lot of pain.

The frame rate displayed is correct; SRT has a 1000 fps rate.

You can try my Essential Graphics Title Importer:
http://www.spherico.com/filmtools/TitleExchange/PTI/pti.dmg

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Mark Suszko
Re: Issues adding captions to timeline with .srt files
on Mar 22, 2018 at 3:09:47 pm

Danke!


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Mark Suszko
Re: Issues adding captions to timeline with .srt files
on Mar 22, 2018 at 3:05:36 pm

Update: Running create cloud update must have patched whatever was wrong, because the same .SRT from before comes in at full duration and complete now, so... it was a bug? Maybe?

I would pay good money for a detailed guidebook or online resource dedicated just to working with captioning in PPCC.


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Andreas Kiel
Re: Issues adding captions to timeline with .srt files
on Mar 22, 2018 at 7:58:34 pm

You can contact me off list
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- Andreas

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