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Olivier Prudhomme
Non Drop Frame footage in Drop Frame timeline: is it ok?
on Dec 18, 2017 at 10:54:14 pm

the shows we receive are NDF and we have to deliver our promos NDF.

SHould we modify the clips once in PPro or just edit them in the DF timeline?

ANy other issues you guys can think of?

Thx

Los Angeles - TV Promo Editor - FCP - AVID


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Dave LaRonde
Re: Non Drop Frame footage in Drop Frame timeline: is it ok?
on Dec 18, 2017 at 11:04:56 pm

You can put NDF clips in a DF timeline. No issues. Both types are the same frame rate, and the difference is in the time code.

But if you make a NDF timeline, the time codes will match up, too.


Who uses NDF for program-length material? That's just weird.

Dave LaRonde
Promotion Producer
KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Olivier Prudhomme
Re: Non Drop Frame footage in Drop Frame timeline: is it ok?
on Dec 18, 2017 at 11:39:12 pm

[Dave LaRonde] "Who uses NDF for program-length material? That's just weird.
"


Thanks for pointing this out. It made me look at the shows and you're right, 99% come in DF.
So why did we ever delivered NDF?.... Mistery because, correct me if I am wrong, but DF is pretty much the norm for broadcast right?

Los Angeles - TV Promo Editor - FCP - AVID


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Dave LaRonde
Re: Non Drop Frame footage in Drop Frame timeline: is it ok?
on Dec 18, 2017 at 11:58:12 pm

[Olivier Prudhomme] "DF is pretty much the norm for broadcast right?"

Correct. Why? Because DF timecode is a measurement of TIME. When the time code says it's an hour, it's an hour.
On the other hand, NDF is just a frame count. When NDF time code says it's an hour, it's actually 8 seconds LESS than an hour.

And when you run things by time -- as they do in TV -- an accurate time measurement is a very good thing indeed.

Dave LaRonde
Promotion Producer
KGAN (CBS) & KFXA (Fox) Cedar Rapids, IA


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Shane Ross
Re: Non Drop Frame footage in Drop Frame timeline: is it ok?
on Dec 18, 2017 at 11:15:09 pm

If you need to deliver the promos as NDF, why are you using a DF timeline? Use NDF all the way.

And Dave, anything under a min you can use an NDF timeline and be time accurate.

Shane
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Olivier Prudhomme
Re: Non Drop Frame footage in Drop Frame timeline: is it ok?
on Dec 18, 2017 at 11:22:24 pm

[Shane Ross] "If you need to deliver the promos as NDF, why are you using a DF timeline? "

Shows come in NDF from production companies.
We have to deliver the promos to the network in DF.

Los Angeles - TV Promo Editor - FCP - AVID


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